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Update 01/02/2010 : Big thanks to Susan from Outlaws of the LAST group promo pic for s6, i just love it the way they’re all watching LOCKE !!!

I’m not good in Religion but sound like our John Locke is the new jesus, so who is judas here ?

I wait your analysis about it :)

god LOST…33days !!!!

and Happy new year everyone !


82 Responses to “Ready for your Last supper on Lost ? Official group pic of season6”


  1. LOST_WFTB says:

    Unless I’ve forgotten all my DaVinci Code skills, Judas is Ben, Peter is Jack and Kate is John the Apostle

    • Charlie's Ghost says:

      judas would be either sayid or sawyer. kate would be mary magdeline.

    • confidence_man says:

      if we havent forgotten our DaVinciCode skills, then Charlie’s Ghost was right at first, Kate is sitting in the “seat of honor” and she’d be Mary Magdalene. If we assume that Darlton were in on this, perhaps placing Kate there is an homage to her initially being LOST’s main protagonist. Then again, she is one of many main characters and they should all be centered (Locke, Jack, Sawyer, Kate, etc duh) so maybe it was just coincidence. Or maybe fate? Oh no….

      And Wikipedia says that John the Apostle appears to be swooning. I think it’d be weird for a guy to swoon (unless you consider da Vinci’s alleged homosexuality)……….unless the person is MARY IN WHICH CASE THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY COOL OMG WOULDNT THAT BE COOL!

  2. Brad Johnson says:

    Who is that next to Richard Alpert? No, not Claire. The other one.

  3. Matt says:

    It is Ilana… my question is to Lost_WFTB… who is Sawyer supposed to be?

  4. lyly ford says:

    one of my friend found it
    The Last Supper measures 450 × 870 centimeters (15 feet × 29 ft) and covers the back wall of the dining hall at Santa Maria delle Grazie in Milan, Italy. The theme was a traditional one for refectories, but Leonardo’s interpretation gave it much greater realism and depth. The lunettes above the main painting, formed by the triple arched ceiling of the refectory, are painted with Sforza coats-of-arms. The opposite wall of the refectory is covered by the Crucifixion fresco by Giovanni Donato da Montorfano, to which Leonardo added figures of the Sforza family in tempera. (These figures have deteriorated in much the same way as has The Last Supper.) Leonardo began work on The Last Supper in 1495 and completed it in 1498—he did not work on the painting continuously. This beginning date is not certain, as “the archives of the convent have been destroyed and our meagre documents date from 1497 when the painting was nearly finished.”[1]

    The Last Supper specifically portrays the reaction given by each apostle when Jesus said one of them would betray him. All twelve apostles have different reactions to the news, with various degrees of anger and shock. From left to right:

    • Bartholomew, James, son of Alphaeus and Andrew form a group of three, all are surprised.
    • Judas Iscariot, Peter and John form another group of three. Judas is wearing green and blue and is in shadow, looking rather withdrawn and taken aback by the sudden revelation of his plan. He is clutching a small bag, perhaps signifying the silver given to him as payment to betray Jesus, or perhaps a reference to his role within the 12 disciples as treasurer.[2] He is the only person to have his elbow on the table. Peter looks angry and is holding a knife pointed away from Christ, perhaps foreshadowing his violent reaction in Gethsemane during Jesus’ arrest. The youngest apostle, John, appears to swoon.
    • (Jesus)
    • Apostle Thomas, James the Greater and Philip are the next group of three. Thomas is clearly upset; James the Greater looks stunned, with his arms in the air. Meanwhile, Philip appears to be requesting some explanation.
    • Matthew, Jude Thaddeus and Simon the Zealot are the final group of three. Both Jude Thaddeus and Matthew are turned toward Simon, perhaps to find out if he has any answer to their initial questions.
    These names are all agreed upon by art historians. In the 19th century, a manuscript (The Notebooks Leonardo Da Vinci pg. 232) was found with their names; before this only Judas, Peter, John and Jesus were positively identified.

    In common with other depictions of The Last Supper from this period, Leonardo adopts the convention of seating the diners on one side of the table, so that none of them have their backs to the viewer. However, most previous depictions had typically excluded Judas by placing him alone on the opposite side of the table from the other eleven disciples and Jesus. Another technique commonly used was placing halos around all the disciples except Judas. Leonardo creates a more dramatic and realistic effect by having Judas lean back into shadow. He also creates a realistic and psychologically engaging means to explain why Judas takes the bread at the same time as Jesus, just after Jesus has predicted that this is what his betrayer will do. Jesus is shown saying this to Saints Thomas and James to his left, who react in horror as Jesus points with his left hand to a piece of bread before them. Distracted by the conversation between John and Peter, Judas reaches for a different piece of bread, as, unseen by him, Jesus too stretches out with his right hand towards it. (Matthew 26: 17-46). The angles and lighting draw attention to Jesus, whose head is located at the vanishing point for all perspective lines.

    The painting contains several references to the number 3, which represents the Christian belief in the Holy Trinity. The Apostles are seated in groupings of three; there are three windows behind Jesus; and the shape of Jesus’ figure resembles a triangle. There may have been other references that have since been lost to the painting’s deterioration.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Supper_(Leonardo)

  5. Apopheniac says:

    According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Supper_(Leonardo) It is Kate that sits the Judas’ chair. Though the LOST pic is not all that faithful of a recreation.

    Again citing Wikipedia, From left to right the figures in Leonardo’s ‘Last Supper’ are; Bartholomew, James, son of Alphaeus, Andrew, Peter, Judas Iscariot, John, Jesus, James the Greater, Thomas, Philip, Matthew, Jude Thaddeus and Simon the Zealot.

  6. MoniquE says:

    Unless I’ve forgotten all my DaVinci Code skills, Judas is Ben, Peter is Jack and Kate is John the Apostle

    No, unless I’ve forgotten the Painting by DaVinci, Peter is on Jesus’s right, more where Sawyer is. Jack is in the position of Doubting Thomas, which fits perfectly.

    Sayid is Judas.

  7. Mesa says:

    What magazine is this in?

  8. there’s someone missing on the right side.

  9. John says:

    Hurley is Jude. Oh course. If you read a bit into the positions the casting is actually quite good. Especially Jack as Thomas, who he’s been compared to on the show before.

  10. Casey says:

    I wouldn’t read too much into a photo for Us Weekly. It’s not like Darlton had them pose for this or something (which would make it meaningful). Besides, it’s a terrible attempt to mimic the painting. Has nobody noticed the obvious? There are too many people in the painting.

    The original has 13 folks – Jesus and his 12 buddies.

    This photo has 14 folks. It’s just Us weekly playing to the tendency of people like us to over-analyze anything LOST related. They want to sell magazines. LOST has a huge fanbase. Let’s put 2 and 2 together.

    Basically, I wouldn’t read much of anything in to this. I very highly doubt this photo has any relation at all to the plot of the upcoming season.

  11. Space says:

    Who is sitting on Locke’s left? I can’t figure it out! lol

  12. This is a great picture! Whether it’s meant for over analysis or not, it’s terrific. It is in the great LOST tradition of being enigmatic — is Locke a savior? He’s resurrected, like Christ, and different after, like Christ. Yet, is his difference good or evil?

    I think the good folks at LOST would not allow a photo like this to be taken if it weren’t for good reason. US Weekly doesn’t get carte blanche for entire cast photos, especially ones this choreographed. Lindelof and Cuse were no doubt in the loop on this, and instrumental in its production and release.

    By the way, as far as cast photos go, this one sure beats out the cast photo for season 5 when the cast was photoshopped into the city living room with living things from the island creeping in.

    • Mirko says:

      “I think the good folks at LOST would not allow a photo like this to be taken if it weren’t for good reason. [...] Lindelof and Cuse were no doubt in the loop on this, and instrumental in its production and release.”

      Exactly!

      I don’t know how often in the last 1-2 years I wrote this in a comment but here it comes again: If you guys really want to understand the show on all levels – especially the more spiritual ones – you HAVE TO READ The Second Coming of Christ by Paramahansa Yogananda. Seriously, that book is a central key to the whole show, it’s plot, it’s terminology and it’s hidden meaning. Lost has always been a deeply spiritual work. I mean, look at it’s creators. Aren’t they true masters of creation & manifestation?

      For all of you who doubt the connection, here are some of the main topics of the book as given by it’s self-description: Baptism, forgiveness of sins and being born again; The Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Ghost) and the role of Satan; Karma and Reincarnation, “Heaven” and “Hell”, Using the healing power of thought and life force…

      In your fullest and pure potential, YOU are eternal Christ Cosciousness.

      Know Thyself & Namaste

      • Mirko says:

        Oh, I forgot to mention that one very revelatory chapter deals with Jesus’ “lost years” in India. Keep it in mind! If you want to understand what is going to come in the finite season of LOST, read that book. Christian, Jack, Jacob, Samuel (MiB), Aaron, Smokie, Dharma, Trimurti, Dualism & Non-Dualism (or Advaita or Christ Consciousness): all those integral parts of LOST’s plot exposed in one single masterpiece of spiritual literature. :D

        • Mirko says:

          Sorry for re-responding to my own post again, but there’s still one thing I originally wanted to say.

          Yogananda not only is an apostle (of belief) but also a perfect ambassador of science as Kriya Yoga is one of the most ancient vedantic sciences known to humanity.

          There truly is no conflict between belief & science nor free will & fate. Both are mere sides of the same coin. The one can’t exist without the other. Truhtfully (literally seen from a higher dimension/reality) both are one. Separation is an illusion manufactored by our mind. The world we perceive is one of n-1 dimensions, given n as the number of dimensions we exist in. So, in order to decipher what is going on we always need to transcend the given mode of understanding. Belief & Science, Free Will & Destiny, Original Universe & Alternate Universe will finally fuse and converge into one. “The end only happens once. Everything else is just progress.”

          That, my friends, is, what Christ Consciousness is all about.

          • Jonathan says:

            Omg! shut up about your hope in bigger super-power then human has. The story of Christ is repeated in about 12 other gods story, and those 12 make a good group with the other thousand`s existing.

            If you believe in that, we don`t care, at least not me… i`m here to read about Lost!

            P.S. if you respond to me your going to be at you 3 re-re-respond… kindof lame!

  13. docarzt says:

    Where is the Smoke Monster?

    • I believe MIB is Smokie. Can’t be in two places at one time. Big clue, NotLocke let Ben go down alone into the Temple.

      My guess Claire would be the Judas, although Sayid is in that position. Aren’t we supposed to see a lot of her this year? And Llanna is full cast member, too, working for Jacob in some way, so has some titular importance – potentially.

      • tabula rasa says:

        Thank you! I have had this theory for awhile now. MIB is Smokie! When Ben is judged, Locke disappears and then the Smoke Monster appears as Alex and tells Ben to do everything Locke tells him to do. Also, the Egyptian drawing in the Temple shows the Smoke Monster at odds with what appears to be Tawaret. Big clue as well. Security system for the Island, the list goes on and on if you go back through the series.

        • stweedle says:

          Then why was Locke surprised when Ben told Locke that Alex had told him to listen to everything Locke said. Even to the point of stopping him on their walk and making him repeat it? If he is Smokie then Locke wouldn’t have been surprised by what he had said.

          • Was MIB surprised? I think he just liked jerking Ben around and of course He was playing a part, pretending to be Locke, having to keep Ben fooled, too.

            And why would Alex have Ben follow UnLocke – as an Island entity she should have known who He really is.

            Just a theory, but…32 days!!!

          • Iwantmykidneyback says:

            he was getting confirmation that ben was going to listen to smokey/MIB/not locke. (and possibly Christian Shepherd?)

    • got a minute says:

      I bet he was at where ever you were considering the time of your post. :)

    • TMGLost says:

      He’s taking the picture, silly!

    • confidence_man says:

      isn’t the Smoke Monster behind them all if mine eyes dont deceive me?

      • 316'er says:

        yes, hes above lockes head, behind some sort of wall

        • confidence_man says:

          haha i take it back, couldnt see too good in that other shot, but now i can see that what’s over ben, that one piece that seems to be floating, is the station wreckage, thought it was smoky.

          what’s the hand protruding from the right supposed to be? the one that seems to be cradling the sky?

  14. [...] Ben, Claire, Frank, Hurley, Ilana, Jack, Jin, Kate, Locke, Miles, Richard, Sawyer, Sayid, Sun DocArzt has uncovered one of the best Lost cast pictures to date.  It’s a recreation of the Last [...]

  15. joe_bones says:

    this isnt a direct representation of jesus and the apostles from the last supper.

    clearly locke is in the jesus position.

    but no one else can be clearly correlated to any of the apostles. i guess you could argue it almost any way you want. ben looks a bit like philip, who is supposedly asking jesus for an explanation why he has to die…. but who knows.

    in leonardo’s painting, you can identify judas because he’s leaning back with his face in the shadows, and he’s reaching for the same piece of bread as jesus. nobody here is doing that.

  16. Mirko says:

    Happy New Year everyone!

    Finally, it’s 2010 – the time we’ve all been waiting for since 09/22/04 (respectively 2007 when we learned that Lost would keep airing until the end of S6). :)

    This is going to be an awesome start into the great uplifting post-LOST-decade.

    The fields of paradise on earth will unfold if you choose properly. Victory to YOU!

  17. RumRunner says:

    I am enjoying the pic. It is a very provocative photo that stirs the imagination.

  18. white rabbit says:

    I think the more significant clue in the photo is the condition of the DHARMA station that they are sitting in front of. The logo i obscured, but I think it might be the Swan Station…. yr thoughts?

  19. lostfanboy16 says:

    the only problem i have with this picture is battlestar galactica did the same exact thing for its final season last year.

  20. Bad Wo-Bat says:

    I miss Desmond and Faraday, my favorite characters. And I want Kate to be as cool as in the first 2 seasons!

  21. AC says:

    One thing that is obvious but not mentioned is the interesting pose by Sawyer. He is the only one not looking at Locke, is the only one behind the group, and he above anyone else, looks most like modern day interpretaion of Jesus.

    The big question is if Damon and Carlton were involved in the shoot, because then it has meaning. Otherwise, a waste of looking into as many others have noted.

  22. Heidi says:

    I think because Jack is in the doubting Thomas position, just as Ben called him after they met with Hawking, I believe the positions are meaningful. The wikipedia description specifies that Judas is in the three to the left of the painting, not Jesus/Locke’s left. I double checked the original painting and it describes the last group of three as two of the apostles looking at the third and that is on the right of the painting. It specifies Judas: “Judas is wearing green and blue and is in shadow, looking rather withdrawn and taken aback by the sudden revelation of his plan. He is clutching a small bag, perhaps signifying the silver given to him as payment to betray Jesus, or perhaps a reference to his role within the 12 disciples as treasurer. He is the only person to have his elbow on the table”. Sawyer is not wearing green and blue, several others are, but he is back and his elbow is on something. He almost looks superimposed actually. I’m amazed that Claire is in the picture and not Juliet or Desmond.

    • ghanima says:

      Claire is probably in the picture because it features the full time cast members for the final season, of which Juliet and Desmond are appearing in less frequently.
      I don’t think the positions are terribly meaningful- at least four people have their elbows on the table. I wish this version included Frank on the end- I’m looking forward to seeing more of Richard and Frank in the coming season!
      Jack has pretty much doubted and challenged Locke from the beginning, so even someone staging the shoot without D&C might have thought it would be fun putting him there.

  23. ken says:

    Dharma Beer cans–ha!

  24. dm says:

    A better show? You have to be kidding.

    • GeigerCounter says:

      In some respects, BSG is much better. I love Lost, don’t get me wrong, but BSG was certainly much more challenging and in certain respects more groundbreaking. I also find BSG’s music, visual effects, and production design way better. Acting was at least as good on BSG as it is on Lost.

      • Mack says:

        BSG was so hit or miss for me. It is my personal opinion that Lost is a more consistent show. BSG had a tendency to veer towards the melodramatic at times, not that Lost hasn’t as well but I feel it was much more pronounced on BSG. It seemed as though the characters were either crying or screaming with very little emotional subtly and nuance in between.

        The ending was a bit of a clunker as well. Is a civilization really learning anything from their experiences if they choose to simply forget them.

      • dm says:

        I don’t know about that stuff, man. I found the writing to be botched (whether it be character or plot) and the treatment of social/political issues as bluntly short-sighted or partisan and obvious (which removed it from being challenging). The ending of the series was kind of embarrassing, almost a giant cop-out.

        I’ve always been really curious why people really loved that show. I think it would have done better as a simple space drama rather than trying to discuss topics that the writers could not sufficiently approach.

    • AR says:

      Sorry DM I meant that BSG did the “Last Supper” photo better not that the show itself is better. I love LOST a lot more :P

      • dm says:

        I agree, but I think it’s just kind of corny on both sides. dp2 is right when s/he says “It was a tired cliche long before BSG rehashed it yet again. Yawn.”

        Kind of not impressed it was used once more.

  25. dp2 says:

    It was a tired cliche long before BSG rehashed it yet again. Yawn.

  26. Major FX says:

    It looks like the Swan Station has blowed up real good. Maybe Jughead really did the job. If so, the Swan cannot exist in the reset universe, at least as a functioning Dharma entity. So, that changes everything…and what is the deal with the hand in the upper right part of the picture? Whose hand is that and what is the significance?

    • BuckSatan says:

      If you look at past pictures of the swan station logo, this one does not appear to be the swan. The swan station logo had a thin neck and the head was very small and towards the very top of the circle.

  27. lyly ford says:

    i added a scan my friend took, you can see better this way and click to enlarge too :)
    enjoy !
    Lyly

  28. Butschi says:

    btw, if you head over to http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/01/05/lost-the-last-supper/ and download the 2 hi-res pictures from there and place them into a new Photoshop document (i.e. each one in its own layer) then it’s pretty clear that both images have been assembled in Photoshop as well (or any other image manipulation software)

    E.g. if you toggle the layers, the background stays exactly the same, also almost all the stuff on the table and even the chairs do not move a single pixel. That would be unuasual if both images would have been shot with a real camera. Also, Kate’s and Locke legs do not change in both images (asige from the horizontal position), although their upper-parts (err… bodies) do change their posing. Btw, anybody seen Claire’s legs???

    So my theory is that every actor was photographed on his own and the whole scenery was then created as a collage in Photoshop… which gives the gfx artist way more possibilities to change setting, order etc.

  29. DharmaLady says:

    Len Sims 6 x 7 connect game. 6 and 7 characters to the left and right of Locke.

  30. amy smithson says:

    Kate is definitely judas!

  31. free stock photos…

    [...]Ready for your Last supper on Lost ? Official group pic of season6 DocArzt's LOST Blog[...]…

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