Comments on: What Nikki Noticed: 5.09 “Namaste”

By: Kevin

Kevin — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:08:53 +0000

Not necessarily a loop. Hurley is in the 1970s and could record the numbers back then, which were then heard by Rosseau’s crew about 10 years later.

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By: Henry Holland

Henry Holland — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:38:20 +0000

I think Ben was in the bathroom by the cockpit. Remember, just before the flash of white light, he walks up the aisle so that Jack can read John’s note in peace.

By: dolce

dolce — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:29:45 +0000

I agree.

By: neoloki

neoloki — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:14:43 +0000

This is just crazy people the show said it is 2007 so IT IS 2007!! Their are any number of reasons for the numbers being heard. For one it could be similar to season 1 when hurley and syaid pick up a radio signal on the beach and hear a broadcast from earlier in the century. Entering into the zone of the Island could have sound waves bouncing around its event horizon from different periods in time, so to speak.

By: neoloki

neoloki — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:04:09 +0000

That is way to nit-picky to be a reason. sorry it is just over thinking the issue.

By: neoloki

neoloki — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:01:48 +0000

Yes, too!! this has already proven to be wrong. Locke and Sawyer were in the same time period as themselves.

By: neoloki

neoloki — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:59:47 +0000

The time is 2007! as stated during episode. The time in the barracks was not in any definite time that we know of, or at least that is my guess. But to assume the plane crash landed in a time period other than 2007 is just dead wrong.

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By: ubermensch

ubermensch — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:26:08 +0000

Did Faraday say “Whatever happens, happens?” OR “Whatever happened, happened?” Big difference between the two. One ends in “s” and one ends in “ed”. If you’re going to write a long article about it, would be nice to have the correct quote.

By: dolce

dolce — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:09:59 +0000

I miss them too. I’m kinda leaning toward the Adam and Eve solution also, but I’m still holding out for a suprise return. *Rose and Bernard stumble out of jungle* Sawyer: “Where have you guys been for the past 3 years? The geriatric Blue Lagoon?”

By: Nikki Stafford

Nikki Stafford — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:21:50 +0000

Exactly. I agree with you, Calichusetts, that two people could exist in the same timeline (obviously, since baby Jack exists in 1977, just not on the island) but I wonder about what would happen should they encounter each other. Perhaps the island knew (yes, I make the island a living thing but that’s because I believe it’s controlling everything) that Sawyer wouldn’t meet himself, because he was off reading Watership Down on the beach or something, so it was OK for him to end up in that space. Same with Locke: he wasn’t going to be in that timeline very long, and wouldn’t encounter himself. And, the record was still skipping. But it’s stopped, and if you end up in 1977, you’re staying there (for now). So there’s almost a 100% chance of Ben encountering Ben, and therefore, not good. And as hyperrevue points out, we saw Chang freak out when the two rabbits were in the same timeline. We weren’t shown that scene for nothing.

By: Nikki Stafford

Nikki Stafford — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:09:07 +0000

The two people everyone on my blog keep asking about are Rose and Bernard, and that’s an excellent question. The writers wouldn’t have let them get killed off-screen in the flaming arrows scene. But we haven’t seen them since. Could they have gone off alone and lived together, and eventually become the Adam and Eve we saw in the cave? I miss them.

By: horselover

horselover — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:39:59 +0000

They’re in ’77. According to what we know, everyone alive travels together (except the Others).

By: horselover

horselover — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:37:42 +0000

Listen again. The numbers are definitely there when 316 goes down.
And yeah, I guess I should say “strong evidence” rather than proof. It’s possible someone put them back, but I think Dharma were the ones who started playing them in the first place and they aren’t around.

By: raffadizzle

raffadizzle — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:56:48 +0000

Okay seriously i haven’t read anything about this yet, but what the heck happened to EVERYONE else on the island??? not just the main cast. does the fact that three years have past mean that all of the other survivors are dead??? or what the heck is going on >_>??

By: dolce

dolce — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:05:18 +0000

yes

By: dolce

dolce — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:03:15 +0000

Besides, who would have gone through the trouble of boarding it up?

By: brent

brent — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:20:30 +0000

The swan is 3/6. I don’t know the reason for the numbering but it seems likely after “Namaste” that the Swan will be figuring heavily the end of this season.

The year of Sun and Lapidus is really a mystery right now. I think everyone has been assuming that it was 2007/8 but I don’t believe it is. I also don’t believe it’s some alternate ethereal time/place that exists only in Smokey’s mind. Or whatever. Remember, when 316 was flying it was night in 2008… they flashed… it was daylight in a mystery time. They have never said when it was they crashed.

By: MedusaSpider

MedusaSpider — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:07:16 +0000

It’s not so much that they can’t be in the same time, they just can’t interact. John didn’t go towards the hatch light because he knew he shouldn’t. Sawyer stopped short of interacting with Kate and Claire because he knew, at some level that he shouldn’t. I would argue that neither of them could possibly have done otherwise. It can’t happen, so it didn’t happen.
Contrast this with Sun and Ben being among the Dharma folk. Knowing that young Ben is there, and that it’s possible Sun is also there (or will be; remember the speculation about Mr. Paik being in cahoots with Widmore), I would think it would be inevitable that they would meet. They might not explode matter-antimatter style, but I don’t feel comfortable with the idea of characters interacting with their young selves. I think it’s the sort of paradox-producing nonsense the writers would want to avoid.

By: chad

chad — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:03:11 +0000

I don’t remember hearing the numbers when 316 went down.. Only hearing them for Russo’s team. (And lot of people thought that it was hurley) Which would be a cange, because it was Hurley’s message of the numbers that brought Russo and also maybe that’s what Leonard heard. Which he inturn taught Hurley the numbers. So if it was Hurley saying the numbers then there is some sort of loop happening.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:34:34 +0000

I wouldn’t call the numbers conclusive proof of a change in the timeline. Someone could have started broadcasting them again during the three-year interim. Richard and the Others were still on the island during that time.

By: nick21989

nick21989 — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:36:02 +0000

Yeah, I saw the smoke come in as well. I wonder if the “dead” people have to do with the smoke. Like, the smoke is their spirits traveling around the island or something crazy like that…either way, I think Christian has something to do with the smoke.

By: longlivekingnick

longlivekingnick — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:13:18 +0000

I was so convinced that Ben wasn’t at Dhramaville during the time period that Sawyer is the head of security. Once I saw little Ben show up with that sandwich, I started to think. What if Faraday tells Sawyer that they do that the power to change the future. What if that is the reason that Sawyer, Miles, and most importantly Juliet never do anything harmful to him or his father.

Juliet would have the most motivation to harm Ben after everything he has put her through. Maybe the are going to attempt to change him, or stop the purge from happening completely.

I didn’t re-watch the episode when the sub blows up, but IMO the dock was pretty messed up. Then there was old smokey in the background, just chilling, doing his/her/its own thing.

Did anyone else notice a bunch of smoke enter the room when Sun and Frank were talking to Christian?

By: Beena

Beena — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:22:37 +0000

I’ll bet dimes to dollars that Ben has done it!

I think that corrupt older Ben has visited his younger self. Maybe he isn’t with him now, but I think he knows how to travel back to his younger self if he wanted to and has done it before. I think Richard did his time traveling thing in recruiting younger Ben, and Richard ended up spilling the beans to Ben so he now knows the secrets of it.