Comments on: What Does It Mean? The ‘LOST’ Comic Con Commercials

By: Lebowski Achiever

Lebowski Achiever — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:41:10 +0000

I think when the bomb blows, Jack enters something similar to what Desmond entered when he turned the fail-safe key. I think he keeps seeing these commercials/shows that remind him of the island much like Desmond did. Unlike Desmond, Jack doesn’t flashback, he flashes forward to see what time would be like had the plane not crashed.

By: Ament

Ament — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:30:02 +0000

It’s insane, I mean with this amount of creative writing yes it of course could be plausible to make an alternate timeline, but I have a hard time imagining it. The one thing sticking in my mind is when Sawyer and the crew pre-DI flashed to the Ajira camp and found the bottle of water, took a boat and shot an Ajira passenger (presumed).

I’m thinking they flashed after finding out about locke and when Jacob said they’re coming perhaps Illana , Bram, and crew were on the defensive when a boat was taken by Sawyer and gunshots were exchanged.

By: Ament

Ament — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:15:43 +0000

I wonder if the box he was referring to now wasn’t his Job but the actual box he was carried in, “You know something about boxes, right john?”. Very funny comment now.

By: skeptic

skeptic — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:37:11 +0000

I don’t think that’s significant at all. I think it’s just a wink to the fans who are at ComicCon in 2009, and clearly establishes that Oceanic 815 did not crash in 2004. As I recall, last years’ tie-in had the DHARMA Initiative starting back up in 2008, which has been entirely irrelevant in the show.

By: Jack&LockeYummyEachOther

Jack&LockeYummyEachOther — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:00:45 +0000

I think that John Locke and the “Non-Locke” will turn out to be the same actor!

By: Jack&LockeYummyEachOther

Jack&LockeYummyEachOther — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:59:32 +0000

It was the same island, in the original show’s reality. The explosion will create an alternate time line, considering how these guys love the Dark Tower books so much, I’m guess the ones in the alternative time line will start to feel torn in two, starting right after the crash was supposed to occur.

By: thorsten

thorsten — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:57:19 +0000

That must be the box with Schroedingers cat in it…

By: Wally

Wally — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:47:57 +0000

Jacob warns as he is bursting into flames “there coming”, jughead worked the plane never crashed, there never was a purge, demond never crashed the plane etc.

As John Locke once said “all roads lead to the hatch”. Jacob touched everyone and as a result they will be drawn to the island. No matter what road they are on they will all lead to the hatch. A new plane will crash, Hurley, Locke, Jack, Kate, etc will all be on it. As we learned on the beach in the last Episode it “always ends the same” and “anything before that is just progress”. The ending will be the same the road that takes us there will be different

By: Cutter XXIII

Cutter XXIII — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:59:08 +0000

BEN: Let me put it so you’ll understand. Picture a box. You know something about boxes, don’t you, John? What if I told you that somewhere on this island, there’s a very large box… and whatever you imagined, whatever you wanted to be in it, when you opened that box, there it would be. What would you say about that, John?

I’d wonder whether that box could, in effect, “collapse timelines” by drawing in characters who had been lost?

By: kinyah

kinyah — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:26:34 +0000

the man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.

By: bryan

bryan — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:15:10 +0000

maybe the price is from a previous century?

By: stweedle

stweedle — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:08:14 +0000

Along this same line of thought…if this is going to be the way they are going why is the Oceanic Airlines website still saying they are out of business. Thats the first thing I checked after the video.

By: preztige2k6

preztige2k6 — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:37:02 +0000

Does anyone care to elaborate on how the show will now take place in 2009?! Since 1979 Oceanic has had 30 years of perfect saftey record –> 2009.I think this is important.

By: Uncle Beaver

Uncle Beaver — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:39:48 +0000

Remember “Flashes Before Your Eyes”? Maybe our characters will have memories of their time on The Island in a way of vivid dreams. And like Ms Hawking told Desmond… they can’t avoid the path they’re on… whatever is going to happen to them is their destiny.

By: Heidi

Heidi — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:00:51 +0000

The unknown in 1977 Jughead action is who else or what else is on the island that maybe we don’t know about that either gets killed or a changed life that changes something else in the alternate timeline. If the numbers are never recorded on the island broadcasting loop, then Sam and Leonard never hear them and Hurley never hears them and maybe he wins the lottery with another set of numbers and that is why he has good luck. He may have traveled to Australia just because he wanted to. Just an example but there is no way we can really predict why or how things would be changed in the future. Smarter minds than mine can list out the possibilities.

By: SeeYouOnMadManPhil

SeeYouOnMadManPhil — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:50:40 +0000

PLEASE.. THE LAST GIRL IN THE OCEANIC AD..WOOOW..
I WANT HER IN MY TIMELINE!!

By: thorsten

thorsten — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:00:29 +0000

Jughead’s little core goes off. Boom. Not a big blast, but enough for the Swan site. They all die, as Richard confirmed.

Maybe the visitations by Jacob seen in ‘The Incident’ happened after that, in the already formed new timeline. That would explain little differences, like Kate killing the wrong plumber. And Sawyer not killing Duckett. Maybe Christian will not drink himself dead in Australia. Which leaves the question why Jacob visited Hurley that late in the game, dropping that guitar case…

By: MILOCAMPO

MILOCAMPO — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:43:09 +0000

the meal only costs $4.42!

By: neoloki

neoloki — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:44:38 +0000

Be careful about using those videos for specifics in constructing your theories. The general idea (parallel realities) yes, Kate does not kill her father, No. Like other years at comic-con and the videos shown we are given a general idea of the story construct, but the films never appear during the season (faraday and chang never sent a video to the future) and thus are not cannon. With that I am going with time line b starting at 77.

The other possibility though is that the reset was complete and since the Swan was never built time line b actually starts at the characters birth. In other words Ashe, time line B is a complete reset. Time line A involves the Jughead detonation. You have to keep them completely seperate.

By: ashe

ashe — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:54:56 +0000

Oh I misread you, sorry. If the jughead explosion created the B universe, though, I don’t really see why it’d have any other effects like that, unless they add some weird chaos theory stuff in there, but that seems like a lot of trouble for what could be a much easier and less confusing resolution.

By: stweedle

stweedle — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:54:27 +0000

I caught the kid looking up at Hurley and wondered if it was supposed to be Walt. At the end though, the “dad” didn’t look anyhitng like Michael. It seems funny though that the camera lingers on the kid looking up at Hurley for a long time.

By: ashe

ashe — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:53:30 +0000

But in the current show timeline, we know for a fact that Kate killed her father, not some plumber. We see it ourselves and the marshal confirms it. That’s why it has to be some alternate pre-crash scenario.

By: Cutter XXIII

Cutter XXIII — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:43:09 +0000

Heh…anybody notice the Locke, Michael, and Walt look-alikes eating chicken as Hurley walks through the dining room?

By: thorsten

thorsten — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:11:03 +0000

In Star Trek Neros attack on the Kelvin and the death of Jim Kirks father spawned a new universe. The one in which the sequel that Damon Lindelof will write with Orci/Kurtzman will take place.
If Juliet detonating Jughead in 1977 created a B-Timeline, this will not erase the events in the A-Line.
If Kate killed Ryan Milder in Timeline B this will be an event isolated to this new universe.
Sun, Ben and Lapidus are in the year 2008 in Timeline A. The remainig question is how the two universes will collapse into a single one during season 6…

By: ashe

ashe — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:51:10 +0000

I just thought of a hole in my own theory – The 1977 DHARMA picture that Christian shows to Sun & Ben. If the Losties going back in time spawned an alternate timeline, why would that picture exist? Perhaps it’s an artifact from another timeline? If that’s the case, how did Christian get it (no way to tell yet) and why would he bother showing it to them if it was something he had to get, since they were gonna follow Locke around anyway?

So, my supplementary theories to the concurrent timelines- I can think of two possibilities:

A) A large-scale event needs to occur to spawn an alternate reality, much like the plot of Donnie Darko. In this instance, everything pre-crash would be the same, which would mean the new Comic-Con video of Kate is just to get people thinking about the idea of alternate universes, not that this is necessarily how things would play out in the alternate universe that will be used by the show. (Assuming alternate or parallel timelines are the direction in which the show is headed.)

B) What happened, happened and Jack and the rest caused the incident, so nothing changed. However, there could still be an alternate timeline where small things are different – Kate killed the wrong man, Hurley didn’t get cursed, but instead found luck, and most importantly – Oceanic 815 didn’t crash, for whatever reason – perhaps it did, but the cast just didn’t get on the plane. In this instance, things pre-crash could be different, and therefore the Kate video could end up being canon. In this timeline, of course, the original crew is still alive, and if they are needed for some event in 2008, they could be pulled from here. (Assuming that theory is correct.) However, in this case, I’d think it less likely that they retain memories of the original timeline (of 1974 – 1977 or 2004 – 2008.)