Comments on: Regarding Henry…

By: jimmy zer00

jimmy zer00 — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:27:02 +0000

Hear Hear, Marc!

By: jimmy zer00

jimmy zer00 — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:25:09 +0000

I think it’s funny that MoneyPenny is knee jerk overreacting to Marc and Doc’s posts, but has chosen the name of one of the most jobplace-sexually-harassed characters in fiction to be her avatar on the site.

Is that irony? I’m never sure.

By: Zonker

Zonker — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:24:27 +0000

As someone else alluded to above, Desmond’s entire Season 5 storyline was useless. The “message” Faraday had him deliver to his mother was completely incidental to the story line– Hawkings was already in motion to gather up the Oceanic 6, and the message from her son did nothing to alter that. What the business with Desmond did accomplish was:
1- present some exposition for the viewers on Daniel’s former girlfriend, and introduce the idea of Hawking = Daniel’s mother; and
2- give Desmond’s character some screen time.

Additionally, as I recall, Desmond was the one who clued Ben in to the connection between Hawking & Daniel, but if there is any payoff in the story to that revelation, we’ve not yet seen it.

So, given the choice of having him as a Season 6 regular that requires the writers to invent things for him to do, versus keeping him in the background until his character is needed to advance the story… I’ll take the latter.

By: marc

marc — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:16:10 +0000

i agree with what doc said in response to money penny above.. and hic is the one who paid not the producers.. why would they do that? lol..in regards to the money grubber comment the fact is if the woman really was sexually harrassed abused etc then its dispicable that she took money as a settlment rather then have hic face justice… by doing that she is saying okay its okay if he does this to other women as long as she gets a settlment.. furhter u are the one on a different planet if you think that the favortism goes to the man in these situations.. i agree it should go the woman , but again any woman taking a settlement over justice is a MONEY GRUBBER.. HAVING SAID THAT… i apologize if i my comments have tainted any opinions on doc who as far as i know is a great guy running a great site

By: spacebender

spacebender — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:38:15 +0000

I am so looking forward to seeing favorite Desmond in the story again, although I agree with Doc that “regular” status would not be required to wrap up the remaining loose time-threads and “work to do” on the Island.

By: Space Lizard

Space Lizard — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:13:45 +0000

I think that Desmond should have been a guest star in season 5…his plot is mostly done, and will probably be finished up quickly in season 6. But I think it’ll mirror his role in season two: not a regular, but still important to the whole plot.

And I agree that he wasn’t as good as a member of the beach camp, ’cause besides telling Charlie he was going to die Desmond had very little to do. He was best in season 4, when he appeared the least out of the regulars ’cause he had a important role somewhere else.

By: docarzt

docarzt — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:49:49 +0000

Are you saying humor is immature, Money Penny? But, I jest again. I can’t speak for Marc, but my comment has nothing to do with any specific circumstances. I’m merely saying that when someone takes money over justice, their motives are going to be questioned. That’s less a maligned personal point of view, and more of an observation of reality. Spend a few minutes watching the news and I’m sure you’ll see what I’m talking about.

The bottom line of my point of view is that whether the suit was valid or not, Desmond’s story should be told as intended.

By: Money Penny

Money Penny — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:34:32 +0000

You claim to be apologizing but continue to spout offensive comments with specious facts about the woman always being favored.

And then doc makes a joke about harassment in the workplace. Seriously guys, grow up.

Sexual harassment or in this case an accusation of battery isn’t funny. The producers decided to pay her off so it didn’t end up in court. That doesn’t make him guilty, nor does it make the alleged victim a money grubber.

By: bondsinseconds

bondsinseconds — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:39:44 +0000

the whole problem is that you called her a money grubber with no proof either way. no one commenting has claimed that HIC did sexually harass her. we have all just said it is unfair to automatically assume that she is in the wrong. and please, historically women are always believed about this sort of thing? what planet are you living on?

By: brother

brother — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:49:15 +0000

See you in another life , brother

By: Sarah

Sarah — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:57:52 +0000

True, except for season 5, when his small dose was delivering a message to Faraday’s mother, which really amounted to nothing at all. Then he got himself shot. Very Lame!

By: Marc

Marc — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:11:34 +0000

Secondly under the philosphy you all are preaching I should be able to call the police or threaten to sue any of you right now for sexually harrassing me with zero proff whatsover and you all will gladly tell me I was harrassed by you and pay me a settlement. And then blindly defend me against anyone who says i was lying. It really is ridiculous either way. I guarentee if HIC took it to court he would have won, but he didnt want his name dragged through the mud like Kobe.

By: Marc

Marc — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:05:51 +0000

You can read that I apologized above and also said that maybe it was wrong of me to say that without all the info, but my point is proven in that you are getting so upset with me calling her a money grubber without proof she is lying.. meanwhile there is no proof she is telling the truth and HIC is forced to settle with her to prevent further tarnishment of his name.. which i find to be B.S. I think you are all looking at it very narrowmindedly and I did clearly say that abuse of any time is inexcusable, but really has to be accompanied by proof. I think your comments are equally sexist as my comments. I also find it to be super offenisive that I am getting attacked while stating my opinion on this forum.

By: Shinto

Shinto — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:26:53 +0000

Why are you calling her a money-grubber? How sexist of you, since you have no idea if she’s telling the truth or not. Why automatically assume the woman is the one lying?

By: joe_bones

joe_bones — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:18:18 +0000

this is actually GOOD NEWS. desmond has always worked best in SMALL DOSES. the worst time on the show for desmond was when he was hanging around the beach camp in season 3, a regular character with not much to do.

desmond is more interesting when he is off doing his own thing, popping up now and again for a centric episode that reveals a lot…. rather than just standing around every week.