Comments on: When are we? A look back.

By: zeitgeist669

zeitgeist669 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:30:48 +0000

Claire could have been talking about Ben when she said, “Don’t bring him back”

By: WLN

WLN — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 05:13:42 +0000

Claire never said not to bring Aaron back. here exact dialog was “Don’t bring him back, Kate. (Chair creaks) Don’t you dare bring him back.” She never uses the name Aaron.

It’s the same as Hurley telling Jack “You’re not suppose to raise him.” Once again, Aaron’s name is never used.

In both cases, Claire and Hurley could have been talking about Locke.

By: Mash62

Mash62 — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:34:09 +0000

If I remember correctly, Kate saw Claire in a dream and stated that she should NOT bring Aaron back to the island. Judging from what I have seen in previews, it would appear she does not bring Aaron back with her.

By: Angel

Angel — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:17:25 +0000

seems like any bodies that are on the island are abled to be manifested (i say its jacob trying to lead people)so bringing Locke back, he would be able to continue his work in someway

By: Flanny

Flanny — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:16:48 +0000

Perhaps Sawyer loses a toe. Then the four toed statue might make a bit more sense.

By: WLN

WLN — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:29:50 +0000

Let’s look at what I said, both in my last season article and my new comments above. His decision was CORRECT for the moment. I said…

“Ben knew that the Island still needed the Oceanic 815 survivors for some purpose, but he was willing to let them go, for now.”

I suggested above that they would have to return, but considering the freighter folk were ready to “torch” the Island, Ben took the necessary steps to save the Island for the moment.

No where in my article do I discuss how “high Ben is on the totem pole.” My discussion is about the fact that Locke is not the new leader.

By: Calichusetts

Calichusetts — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:49:17 +0000

I think that you contradict yourself in this article. You state that Ben is the leader because of his decisions, pointing out he approved the arrangement for the losties to leave, but look where that got them? This decision was an ill-fated one and this WHOLE season is devoted to showing that decision to be wrong and one that has to be changed to save the island. In otherwords, if Ben’s only goal was to protect the island, he clearly failed in that decision and is trying to make up for it. And as a leader, that is a very bad choice on his part.

Also, Ben is given commands, I think it still remains to be scene if he is the leader or one of the leader’s trusted inner circle members. He is given a deadline by Ms. Hawkings, this does not fit that idea of him making the decisions as well, he clearly doesnt fully understand the island. Also, there is constant reference in his speeches in the premier that he is unsure if they will return “maybe well never know” was his response to what happened after they left.

Clearly he fulfills a leadership role, but I tend to think of the question surrounding his leadership is one of “how high is he on the totem pole” and not one relating to his goals as leader.

By: Gusteaux

Gusteaux — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:48:53 +0000

What I found interesting was that, once again, Sawyer was trecking through the jungle barefoot and stepped on a sharp object. The same thing happened in The Brig when he was following Locke to The Black Rock. There has to be a clue/message there for the same thing to happen again in BYL. If I remember correctly, one of the “Paul Is Dead” clues from the early 70′s hoax was that Paul was barefoot on the Abby Road cover. Anyone have any ideas?

By: WLN

WLN — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:35:33 +0000

There was no dialog that indicated beyond a shadow of a doubt that Sayid was done with Ben. Sayid’s advice was to keep Hurley from becoming involved with Ben, nothing more at the moment.

By: WLN

WLN — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:29:03 +0000

In a sense, you just answered your own question. Widmore knew how to get to the Island, and it is evident that just because Keamy was killed, was no indication that Widmore would not try again.

How do you know that it is Aaron being spoken of in the phrase “you’re not suspose to raise him?” Could that be in reference to Locke, in as “raising him from the dead?”

By: spinflip

spinflip — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:32:59 +0000

I am still confused about some things:
For instance, why was it necessary to move the island at all, after Keamy and his people had been already killed? Sure, Widmore knew about the island’s location, but still they could have waited.
Why has Claire left the baby in the jungle only for Jacob to demand it back (‘you are not supposed to raise him’ and all)? Without moving the island Aaron could have been raised there and Locke would be the living leader.

By: spinflip

spinflip — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:26:28 +0000

>Also, why is Sawyer so set on wearing a shirt??

It’s the mosquitoes.

By: Karona

Karona — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:05:21 +0000

Actions speak louder then words!! Ben’s actions are of someone in complete control. Poor Locke; played again. But, I’m not convinced that he’s dead, yet, considering how “dead” Sayid appeared.
A couple of things that seemed off to me: I don’t recall Rose and her husband picking at each other all of the time like they were doing in the premiere. Also, why is Sawyer so set on wearing a shirt??

By: professorstotch

professorstotch — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:20:24 +0000

I don’t think Sayid is still “popping off people for Ben.” Judging by the comments made by he and Ben, I think they’ve gone their seperate ways.