Comments on: Lost Theory – Where the Hell is the Island? http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/ Everything Lost found here. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:11:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: O.M.S. http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/comment-page-1/#comment-24166 O.M.S. Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:39:47 +0000 http://www.docarzt.com/?p=3612#comment-24166 I think the Others are a mirror image of Jack and the Lost survivors. Look at them: eyeliner dude is Jack (wasn't he working on Locke's leg in the last ep...like a doctor?). Look at all the Others -- there are versions of them that are Sun, Jin and Sawyer and all the rest. Time travel and some sort of mirror universe thing, that's what I'm going for. I think the Others are a mirror image of Jack and the Lost survivors. Look at them: eyeliner dude is Jack (wasn’t he working on Locke’s leg in the last ep…like a doctor?). Look at all the Others — there are versions of them that are Sun, Jin and Sawyer and all the rest.

Time travel and some sort of mirror universe thing, that’s what I’m going for.

]]> By: balgus http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/comment-page-1/#comment-23910 balgus Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:20:42 +0000 http://www.docarzt.com/?p=3612#comment-23910 It seems to me that the O6 + Locke are the Island's constant (Or at least some of them are). The island won't stop jumping till they return. As far as the Island disappearing though, think back to "The Constant". When Desmond became dislocated in time only his conciousness was jumping. On top of that, it was his past conciousness that was doing the jumping. While this was happening the future Desmond's conciousness was gone. Maybe that's how it works for the Island when the same thing happens on the physical plane. The Island still physically exists (just like Desmond's body when his conciousness returned to the past) but to the outside observer nobody's home. That doesn't make things easy if you are trying to find your way back and you are now one of those outside observers. Maybe that's why they need Mrs Hawking and that Dharma Station she was working in. She appears to be the key to pinpointing where and when they can find the island in order to return. However, there appears to be a limited window of opportunity to do so before it becomes immpossible to get back. It seems to me that the O6 + Locke are the Island’s constant (Or at least some of them are). The island won’t stop jumping till they return. As far as the Island disappearing though, think back to “The Constant”. When Desmond became dislocated in time only his conciousness was jumping. On top of that, it was his past conciousness that was doing the jumping. While this was happening the future Desmond’s conciousness was gone. Maybe that’s how it works for the Island when the same thing happens on the physical plane. The Island still physically exists (just like Desmond’s body when his conciousness returned to the past) but to the outside observer nobody’s home. That doesn’t make things easy if you are trying to find your way back and you are now one of those outside observers. Maybe that’s why they need Mrs Hawking and that Dharma Station she was working in. She appears to be the key to pinpointing where and when they can find the island in order to return. However, there appears to be a limited window of opportunity to do so before it becomes immpossible to get back.

]]> By: spinflip http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/comment-page-1/#comment-23754 spinflip Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:11:07 +0000 http://www.docarzt.com/?p=3612#comment-23754 From the first two episodes it seems that they need to come back to stop those instable time jumps, like the island would then calm down and rest in time again or something. A 'scientific reason', as Michael Emerson said. I think it's not necessarily destiny or fulfillment at this point. From the first two episodes it seems that they need to come back to stop those instable time jumps, like the island would then calm down and rest in time again or something. A ‘scientific reason’, as Michael Emerson said. I think it’s not necessarily destiny or fulfillment at this point.

]]> By: Uncle Beaver http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/comment-page-1/#comment-23696 Uncle Beaver Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:30:36 +0000 http://www.docarzt.com/?p=3612#comment-23696 This one makes the most sense to me: Why would they need to go back? When the island shifted into a new narrative, it was fulfilling its place in the timeline. It was meant to go to this other narrative, but the 6 were supposed to come with it. Without the 6 to put certain events into motion, the timeline becomes out of control trying to correct itself and causes some terrible things to happen. The return of the 6 will allow the timeline to correct itself, well, correctly. This one makes the most sense to me:

Why would they need to go back?

When the island shifted into a new narrative, it was fulfilling its place in the timeline. It was meant to go to this other narrative, but the 6 were supposed to come with it. Without the 6 to put certain events into motion, the timeline becomes out of control trying to correct itself and causes some terrible things to happen. The return of the 6 will allow the timeline to correct itself, well, correctly.

]]> By: Ambivalentman http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/comment-page-1/#comment-23695 Ambivalentman Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:10:26 +0000 http://www.docarzt.com/?p=3612#comment-23695 I believe the island disappeared because whatever happened there causes the ultimate destruction of it. As a result, it is erased from the map. The Oceanic Six have to go back to make things right. The only problem with this theory is that Darlton have made it clear that future events can't be altered (course-correction). So, of course, that makes the movement of the island still a mystery. I believe the island disappeared because whatever happened there causes the ultimate destruction of it. As a result, it is erased from the map. The Oceanic Six have to go back to make things right. The only problem with this theory is that Darlton have made it clear that future events can’t be altered (course-correction). So, of course, that makes the movement of the island still a mystery.

]]> By: Koobie http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/comment-page-1/#comment-23694 Koobie Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:22:23 +0000 http://www.docarzt.com/?p=3612#comment-23694 It may be possible that in this new place that the alternate version of the Oceanic 6 have perished, and do not exist in any form. You may be onto something though, the four toed statue could be the result of the island originating from another reality and had been moved to (for lack of a better term) the Flight 815-verse in the years proceeding the Dharma Initiative. It may be possible that in this new place that the alternate version of the Oceanic 6 have perished, and do not exist in any form.

You may be onto something though, the four toed statue could be the result of the island originating from another reality and had been moved to (for lack of a better term) the Flight 815-verse in the years proceeding the Dharma Initiative.

]]> By: Koobie http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/comment-page-1/#comment-23693 Koobie Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:14:40 +0000 http://www.docarzt.com/?p=3612#comment-23693 - If the island went back in time, why would it become invisible? If the island is in a closed timelike curve, it would stop existing at that point (the time that it moved) and "restart" at the time when the path was created. - Wouldn’t the island still exist in the same spot for many years in the past? I think the island has been in the same spot for at least as long as the Dharma Initiative has been there. We have no idea how long it has been since the last time the island moved. - Maybe the island has always been moving all along. Does the island float? How far down could it go with out being connected to the Earth somewhere? I would assume the island has not been floating, because if the island was constantly moving around would there be any reason for Ben to move it? - Did the Looking Glass get moved as well? It wasn’t on the island but it was connected and it was close. See Darth's comment :) - If the island went back in time, why would it become invisible?

If the island is in a closed timelike curve, it would stop existing at that point (the time that it moved) and “restart” at the time when the path was created.

- Wouldn’t the island still exist in the same spot for many years in the past?

I think the island has been in the same spot for at least as long as the Dharma Initiative has been there. We have no idea how long it has been since the last time the island moved.

- Maybe the island has always been moving all along. Does the island float? How far down could it go with out being connected to the Earth somewhere?

I would assume the island has not been floating, because if the island was constantly moving around would there be any reason for Ben to move it?

- Did the Looking Glass get moved as well? It wasn’t on the island but it was connected and it was close.

See Darth’s comment :)

]]> By: DarthVibbert http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/comment-page-1/#comment-23691 DarthVibbert Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:47:44 +0000 http://www.docarzt.com/?p=3612#comment-23691 I would have to think the Looking Glass moved, if not only because the Hydra Island moved as well. I would have to think the Looking Glass moved, if not only because the Hydra Island moved as well.

]]> By: clueless1der http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/comment-page-1/#comment-23690 clueless1der Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:42:41 +0000 http://www.docarzt.com/?p=3612#comment-23690 I'm not sure if it's a good thing or not that I'm putting so much thought into this, but if it is indeed a "rift in time" that the O6 need to fix, then do you think they would have problems with running into various versions of themselves on/off island? The relics found there (Black Rock, Statue, etc) would seem to lend themselves to that theory. :) -Jess I’m not sure if it’s a good thing or not that I’m putting so much thought into this, but if it is indeed a “rift in time” that the O6 need to fix, then do you think they would have problems with running into various versions of themselves on/off island? The relics found there (Black Rock, Statue, etc) would seem to lend themselves to that theory. :)

-Jess

]]> By: numbersarebad http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/comment-page-1/#comment-23688 numbersarebad Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:06:00 +0000 http://www.docarzt.com/?p=3612#comment-23688 If the island went back in time, why would it become invisible? Wouldn't the island still exist in the same spot for many years in the past? Maybe the island has always been moving all along. Does the island float? How far down could it go with out being connected to the Earth somewhere? Did the Looking Glass get moved as well? It wasn't on the island but it was connected and it was close. I am interested in what it was used for before the Others took it over. I really like the idea of seeing Kelvin again and Radzinsky. I still wonder what they really knew about the Others. Did Ben and the Others leave the Dharma people in the Swan alone so they wouldn't have to press the button? I hope we get to see the real Henry Gale parachute onto the island. If the island went back in time, why would it become invisible? Wouldn’t the island still exist in the same spot for many years in the past? Maybe the island has always been moving all along. Does the island float? How far down could it go with out being connected to the Earth somewhere? Did the Looking Glass get moved as well? It wasn’t on the island but it was connected and it was close. I am interested in what it was used for before the Others took it over. I really like the idea of seeing Kelvin again and Radzinsky. I still wonder what they really knew about the Others. Did Ben and the Others leave the Dharma people in the Swan alone so they wouldn’t have to press the button? I hope we get to see the real Henry Gale parachute onto the island.

]]> By: Mr. Rob http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/comment-page-1/#comment-23684 Mr. Rob Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:08:24 +0000 http://www.docarzt.com/?p=3612#comment-23684 Yes I do agree with this. I totally agree that the swan is back as well. I recall a very early screen cap from season 5 were we a shot of Fairaday held up at gun point by an man in a yellow hazmat suit outside what appears to be the swan. Yes I do agree with this. I totally agree that the swan is back as well. I recall a very early screen cap from season 5 were we a shot of Fairaday held up at gun point by an man in a yellow hazmat suit outside what appears to be the swan.

]]> By: UK Parting Words http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-theories/lost-theory-where-the-hell-is-the-island/comment-page-1/#comment-23682 UK Parting Words Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:40:10 +0000 http://www.docarzt.com/?p=3612#comment-23682 I think that the island has went back in time as one of the sneek peaks shows Eko's plane crashing the one with his brother in it. My guess is that the hatch will be there with Radzinski and Kelvin Inman in it. We might get to then see Rousseau's story and the famous hostiles. I think that the island has went back in time as one of the sneek peaks shows Eko’s plane crashing the one with his brother in it. My guess is that the hatch will be there with Radzinski and Kelvin Inman in it. We might get to then see Rousseau’s story and the famous hostiles.

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