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		<title>By: lmsprouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmsprouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I may possibly agree with the whole Jacob and Esau theory, I can&#039;t help thinking about what Daniel says...&quot;You can&#039;t change the future.&quot; But, what if you could change the past? If you had one shot? Whatever our heroes decide to do works. What about the orientation vids? The Swan vid was on reel to reel, indicating circa 1970&#039;s, right? Dr. Chang was wearing a prostetic arm. In The Pearl, the vid was on video tape, circa 1980&#039;s, Chang had full use of both arms. That would be like your arm growing back and that doesn&#039;t happen.
     Now, think about &quot;Flashes Before Your Eyes&quot;...was Desmond seeing the future in his flash-back, or was it a memory? We assume Charlie doesn&#039;t know Des because they haven&#039;t yet been on the island. But what if they changed the past? They changed the past, Des remembers, but some survivors were saved. 
     In Charlie&#039;s case, his entire life changed...no Drive Shaft...no reason to go to Australia in the first place. I believe this because if Des would have seen Charlie otherwise singing &quot;Wonderwall&quot; on a street corner, his first thought would have been &quot;I know him, he&#039;s a musician for Drive Shaft.&quot; But no one knew Charlie.
    Maybe it was before Drive Shaft exsisted, but Liam and Charlie worked there entire life to be famous.
     --Flashforward--Desmond had a memory of Daniel visiting him in the hatch. A sudden memory, one he never had before. That should, at least make my theory believeable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I may possibly agree with the whole Jacob and Esau theory, I can&#8217;t help thinking about what Daniel says&#8230;&#8221;You can&#8217;t change the future.&#8221; But, what if you could change the past? If you had one shot? Whatever our heroes decide to do works. What about the orientation vids? The Swan vid was on reel to reel, indicating circa 1970&#8217;s, right? Dr. Chang was wearing a prostetic arm. In The Pearl, the vid was on video tape, circa 1980&#8217;s, Chang had full use of both arms. That would be like your arm growing back and that doesn&#8217;t happen.<br />
     Now, think about &#8220;Flashes Before Your Eyes&#8221;&#8230;was Desmond seeing the future in his flash-back, or was it a memory? We assume Charlie doesn&#8217;t know Des because they haven&#8217;t yet been on the island. But what if they changed the past? They changed the past, Des remembers, but some survivors were saved.<br />
     In Charlie&#8217;s case, his entire life changed&#8230;no Drive Shaft&#8230;no reason to go to Australia in the first place. I believe this because if Des would have seen Charlie otherwise singing &#8220;Wonderwall&#8221; on a street corner, his first thought would have been &#8220;I know him, he&#8217;s a musician for Drive Shaft.&#8221; But no one knew Charlie.<br />
    Maybe it was before Drive Shaft exsisted, but Liam and Charlie worked there entire life to be famous.<br />
     &#8211;Flashforward&#8211;Desmond had a memory of Daniel visiting him in the hatch. A sudden memory, one he never had before. That should, at least make my theory believeable.</p>
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		<title>By: the dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>the dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WALT!</description>
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		<title>By: redondofuentes</title>
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		<dc:creator>redondofuentes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okan...

I don&#039;t think it is either so much... I believe what we we saw in the finale was a preview of the current state of what we are seeing on the island. different people have been drawn to the island for different successive purposes. The egyptianishes contributed what they were brought for... black rock peeps for their part... dharma for its part... lostaways for theirs... 316ers for theirs... like the man talked with jacob about... he has kept(continued) bringing people there... what the man in black lacks is jacob&#039;s vision of why and for how much longer. 

it&#039;s like chess, stacking your pieces for plays to come.... er, or should I say backgammon.

The egytians were just pieces. It looks like the board is, or is just about set for whatever the final play is (which might also be to deadlock mr. black for stasis).

A quick glance at doc jensen&#039;s supercomputer reveals some interesting details about backgammon... one of which is:

&quot;The objective is to remove (bear off) all of one&#039;s own checkers from the board before one&#039;s opponent can do the same.&quot;

and other good reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backgammon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okan&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it is either so much&#8230; I believe what we we saw in the finale was a preview of the current state of what we are seeing on the island. different people have been drawn to the island for different successive purposes. The egyptianishes contributed what they were brought for&#8230; black rock peeps for their part&#8230; dharma for its part&#8230; lostaways for theirs&#8230; 316ers for theirs&#8230; like the man talked with jacob about&#8230; he has kept(continued) bringing people there&#8230; what the man in black lacks is jacob&#8217;s vision of why and for how much longer. </p>
<p>it&#8217;s like chess, stacking your pieces for plays to come&#8230;. er, or should I say backgammon.</p>
<p>The egytians were just pieces. It looks like the board is, or is just about set for whatever the final play is (which might also be to deadlock mr. black for stasis).</p>
<p>A quick glance at doc jensen&#8217;s supercomputer reveals some interesting details about backgammon&#8230; one of which is:</p>
<p>&#8220;The objective is to remove (bear off) all of one&#8217;s own checkers from the board before one&#8217;s opponent can do the same.&#8221;</p>
<p>and other good reading</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backgammon" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backgammon</a></p>
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		<title>By: Okan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Okan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean maybe Ben has been doing all of those things for something good.

 I was almost convinced when he said Jack &quot;We are the good guys&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean maybe Ben has been doing all of those things for something good.</p>
<p> I was almost convinced when he said Jack &#8220;We are the good guys&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me not understand about this story and stuf. Locke is Jakob, Easel is smoke monster, Tom Cruz is Ethan Rom. Aaggh! Hey, I think Jack Bender did a great job with Star Trek. I liked The Adventures of Brisco County Jr., but Diagnosis Murder sucked. What are Cuselof thinking? If Evangeline Lilly is going to be on &#039;V&#039; then how can she and Juliet get together in the alternate timeline? Did anybody actually like M:i-II? Shame JD Abrams, shame! Oh, and what the hell was with that annoying Australian guy. Bloody Ossies! Colour, centre. What&#039;s with all you Jack haters, hah! Besides, Scott Wolf is a great actor. White Squall, anyone? Keri Russell wasn&#039;t in Alias, Jennifer Garner was in Felicity, geez! You know what I like about David Chase</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me not understand about this story and stuf. Locke is Jakob, Easel is smoke monster, Tom Cruz is Ethan Rom. Aaggh! Hey, I think Jack Bender did a great job with Star Trek. I liked The Adventures of Brisco County Jr., but Diagnosis Murder sucked. What are Cuselof thinking? If Evangeline Lilly is going to be on &#8216;V&#8217; then how can she and Juliet get together in the alternate timeline? Did anybody actually like M:i-II? Shame JD Abrams, shame! Oh, and what the hell was with that annoying Australian guy. Bloody Ossies! Colour, centre. What&#8217;s with all you Jack haters, hah! Besides, Scott Wolf is a great actor. White Squall, anyone? Keri Russell wasn&#8217;t in Alias, Jennifer Garner was in Felicity, geez! You know what I like about David Chase</p>
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		<title>By: Okan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Okan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think that this show deeply relates to any religion but Ancient Egypt.</description>
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		<title>By: Okan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Okan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually We do not know yet if Ben is good or bad !</description>
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		<title>By: Okan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Okan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe just because he was his brother. So somebody else could kill Jacob.</description>
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		<title>By: Handsome Smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handsome Smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve watched the season finale three times recently, and unLocke often seems surprised about things (the look on his face when they reach Jacob&#039;s home at the statue&#039;s foot). That is something I noticed as well. It could be that Jacob&#039;s doppleganger has a limited knowledge of certain aspects of the Island. 

It may also be that he is surprised at the stupidity of Ben and others. Ben may have been repeating what someone told him, or more likely an application of his own interpretation of Smokie and other aspects of the Island. UnLocke may also be surprised at Ben&#039;s accurate guess - or at Ben&#039;s error. It could explain some of those surprised looks. He may well be Smokie and surprised at Ben&#039;s ignorance. We don&#039;t know how Ben has any of his information.

I am of the belief that both Ben and Locke have been victims of unLocke&#039;s manipulation during the entire events of Lost. Ilayna mentioned that someone else had been using Jacob&#039;s cabin, for instance, and then burned it.  

How Richard could not have been aware of unLocke&#039;s presence or involvement, I&#039;m not sure. We still don&#039;t fully understand his role or just who he is in the Lost scheme just yet. More and more he seems to be a Watcher type figure: He designates the Others&#039; leader, and allows them to make decisions, but then also overrides some, or at least questions them in order to influence a change. But then, he knows where Jacob truly resides and obviously has met him. 

Although, Richard didn&#039;t go in with unLocke and Ben, did he.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve watched the season finale three times recently, and unLocke often seems surprised about things (the look on his face when they reach Jacob&#8217;s home at the statue&#8217;s foot). That is something I noticed as well. It could be that Jacob&#8217;s doppleganger has a limited knowledge of certain aspects of the Island. </p>
<p>It may also be that he is surprised at the stupidity of Ben and others. Ben may have been repeating what someone told him, or more likely an application of his own interpretation of Smokie and other aspects of the Island. UnLocke may also be surprised at Ben&#8217;s accurate guess &#8211; or at Ben&#8217;s error. It could explain some of those surprised looks. He may well be Smokie and surprised at Ben&#8217;s ignorance. We don&#8217;t know how Ben has any of his information.</p>
<p>I am of the belief that both Ben and Locke have been victims of unLocke&#8217;s manipulation during the entire events of Lost. Ilayna mentioned that someone else had been using Jacob&#8217;s cabin, for instance, and then burned it.  </p>
<p>How Richard could not have been aware of unLocke&#8217;s presence or involvement, I&#8217;m not sure. We still don&#8217;t fully understand his role or just who he is in the Lost scheme just yet. More and more he seems to be a Watcher type figure: He designates the Others&#8217; leader, and allows them to make decisions, but then also overrides some, or at least questions them in order to influence a change. But then, he knows where Jacob truly resides and obviously has met him. </p>
<p>Although, Richard didn&#8217;t go in with unLocke and Ben, did he.</p>
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		<title>By: stweedle</title>
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		<dc:creator>stweedle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing about UnLocke being a shape shifter or the Smoke Monster argument that gets me is this: if UnLocke is the monster, why was he (Locke)surprised when Ben told him that the smoke monster, as Alex, told him to listen to whatever Locke told him to do.  If UnLocke is the monster he would&#039;ve known this, he told Ben himself.  When Ben mentioned his dead daughter told him to do whatever Locke said, he seemed surprised even making a comment to the effect of good now I don&#039;t have to convince you to kill Jacob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about UnLocke being a shape shifter or the Smoke Monster argument that gets me is this: if UnLocke is the monster, why was he (Locke)surprised when Ben told him that the smoke monster, as Alex, told him to listen to whatever Locke told him to do.  If UnLocke is the monster he would&#8217;ve known this, he told Ben himself.  When Ben mentioned his dead daughter told him to do whatever Locke said, he seemed surprised even making a comment to the effect of good now I don&#8217;t have to convince you to kill Jacob.</p>
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		<title>By: Handsome Smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handsome Smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, couple of interesting suggestions there: One, maybe the fade to white wasn&#039;t an explosion. Has to be considered, but like you I think it did.

The second is that the O-6 are consciousness time-traveling. It doesn&#039;t seem that way because of the view of the events that we&#039;re given. They don&#039;t seem disoriented in these &#039;77 episodes. But it is an interesting suggestion.

The Darlton have also said the DI will not be too important, at least to the extent they have been, in the final season. S-6 may well be a fast-forward of the 90 days (?) the Losties were actually on the Island and the three years of S-5 never happened.

But more likely to a 2009 crash. And frankly, that doesn&#039;t work for me. Although I hope they some how make it work, convince me that somehow the past five years...happened!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, couple of interesting suggestions there: One, maybe the fade to white wasn&#8217;t an explosion. Has to be considered, but like you I think it did.</p>
<p>The second is that the O-6 are consciousness time-traveling. It doesn&#8217;t seem that way because of the view of the events that we&#8217;re given. They don&#8217;t seem disoriented in these &#8216;77 episodes. But it is an interesting suggestion.</p>
<p>The Darlton have also said the DI will not be too important, at least to the extent they have been, in the final season. S-6 may well be a fast-forward of the 90 days (?) the Losties were actually on the Island and the three years of S-5 never happened.</p>
<p>But more likely to a 2009 crash. And frankly, that doesn&#8217;t work for me. Although I hope they some how make it work, convince me that somehow the past five years&#8230;happened!?!</p>
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		<title>By: Handsome Smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handsome Smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I appreciated St. Elsewhere&#039;s finale! The autistic boy and the snow globe!

Classic. 

But you can only do that once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I appreciated St. Elsewhere&#8217;s finale! The autistic boy and the snow globe!</p>
<p>Classic. </p>
<p>But you can only do that once.</p>
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		<title>By: Foreign Theory: Two Sides of the War &#171; Not Confused Just Lost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foreign Theory: Two Sides of the War &#171; Not Confused Just Lost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: neoloki</title>
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		<dc:creator>neoloki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, I have a headache. Post upon post about grammar!? Why? I have an idea for the people who find the grammar distracting. Obviously, your awareness of the grammatical mistakes makes you equally aware of how to correct them. So, if you find the article how to understand because of poor grammar but still want to read it,copy and paste the article onto your word processor, fix the mistakes and then read the damn thing. Now if you want to contribute to the site you could even send it to the author who then could post the corrections. In the end this all can be done behind the scenes without subjecting the rest of us to an asinine argument. 

As for Lost, I think the series finale will be reflective of the quality in the previous 5 seasons of Lost. In other words it will be satisfying. If their is one thing the TPTB are aware of it is what&#039;s expected of them considering the sub-par(in some peoples opinions) conclusions of other t.v. series. With this at the forefront of their approach and with the appropriate sense of responsibility, they will do the best they can.

As for current events, I am going with a tangent universe a la Donnie Darko, which is created from and at the point of the jughead explosion. The first 3 eps of season 6 will be correcting this &quot;problem&quot;. After, we will get down to Island WAR with no flash anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I have a headache. Post upon post about grammar!? Why? I have an idea for the people who find the grammar distracting. Obviously, your awareness of the grammatical mistakes makes you equally aware of how to correct them. So, if you find the article how to understand because of poor grammar but still want to read it,copy and paste the article onto your word processor, fix the mistakes and then read the damn thing. Now if you want to contribute to the site you could even send it to the author who then could post the corrections. In the end this all can be done behind the scenes without subjecting the rest of us to an asinine argument. </p>
<p>As for Lost, I think the series finale will be reflective of the quality in the previous 5 seasons of Lost. In other words it will be satisfying. If their is one thing the TPTB are aware of it is what&#8217;s expected of them considering the sub-par(in some peoples opinions) conclusions of other t.v. series. With this at the forefront of their approach and with the appropriate sense of responsibility, they will do the best they can.</p>
<p>As for current events, I am going with a tangent universe a la Donnie Darko, which is created from and at the point of the jughead explosion. The first 3 eps of season 6 will be correcting this &#8220;problem&#8221;. After, we will get down to Island WAR with no flash anything.</p>
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		<title>By: neoloki</title>
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		<dc:creator>neoloki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree JD. People need to recognize or diagnose their OCD.</description>
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