Comments on: Fueling the Fire: An Ilana & Jacob Theory

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By: lostand found

lostand found — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:56:28 +0000

what about ilana being jacob’s daughter instead

By: lost-maniac

lost-maniac — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:53:27 +0000

I have a couple of observations:

While the island was skipping in time, sawyer and his crew found a boat near their old camp… That seemed to be the boat left by ilana’s people, specially because there were aljira’s bottled water in them… Who was shooting at them, then? Somehow I think this is a possible connection to bring people back in time…

About Rose and Bernard… they are just tired, and they don’t care about what other people do. This seems to be related to the standing challenge between Jacob and the mistery man, who claims that: “they arrive, they wanna take for themselves, they fight, they kill…” Somehow I think Rose and Bernard have reached lost’s nirvana… they just wanna live and let live.

By: lost-maniac

lost-maniac — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:34:25 +0000

It doesn’t make any sense to me, V3L… They didn’t do anything before, because Jacob needed to die to prove the point to the other dude… Ilana’s crew checked out Miles a week before he boarded Widmore’s ship. So they did have a broader understanding of the whole situation, and are not amateurs (see how Ilana arrested Sayid, a natural born killer, like Mr Echo). They waited until the fake locke left to do his thing, and they went about doing their own thing, which was to take real locke’s corpse to richard.

I have high hopes for Ilana. And the fact that Jacob went to see her before the whole mess started (although we don’t really have a time frame about when that took place – it could have been the german invasion of russia, for all we know) gives her a bigger role to play in the show.

By: jason g

jason g — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:58:25 +0000

Widmore was not shot and Locke had the gun not Sawyer. If you remember, Sawyer asked why Locke didnt shoot him and Locke responded someting like “He is on of my people” So no Widmore is not the statue and if it was him it would be a statue of something with a pig face not an alligator/crocodile

By: ushkush

ushkush — Mon, 25 May 2009 01:28:56 +0000

Ilana is Ma’at
Jacob is Osiris
Lou Pole is Set
Widmore has been the good guy all along ’cause he was trying to off Linus.
Eloise has been a bad guy all along because she had her working on a why to get everyone to the island.

Lou pole will try to convince everyone he’s the good guy and Ilana’s troop is not. Many will believe and go with him. This has been mirrored all time the choosing of sides, between beach/cave, jack/locke, others/survivors, and the figuring out if someone is good or bad in Locke’s cop, Henry Gale, Juliet, Mr. Eko, Rousseau’s Beau, Michael/Kevin J.

Next they will need to find a way to keep the loop going (the fight between these guys) and yet still exit the loop themselves. I think that if the loop is to stop the world-would-end-scenario would be upon the island baddies.

What is it that Eloise said to Des if he didn’t go to the island that ‘every single one of us will die.’ I think she means even single one of the bad guys.

By: Leo

Leo — Sat, 23 May 2009 20:07:46 +0000

where in the islands did u here that from i wood like to no

By: Foreign Theory: Ilana is Sekhmet « Not Confused Just Lost

Foreign Theory: Ilana is Sekhmet « Not Confused Just Lost — Fri, 22 May 2009 12:09:49 +0000

[...] especially like this theory from JOpinionated (via DocArzt) because I too think that Ilana is a god. I don’t have the required knowledge of Egyptian [...]

By: Michel

Michel — Fri, 22 May 2009 06:38:41 +0000

Yup, apparently it’s jewish and it’s the feminine form of “Ilan”, which means “Tree”. Which, for the moment, sheds not light whatsoever on the character.

By: Darya

Darya — Fri, 22 May 2009 05:54:01 +0000

Ilana is not a Russian name although it sounds like it, but it is not.
If she was injured on the island while turning that wheel, she would get to Tunisia, but not Russia. Anyways, their Russian speech is confusing.

By: newbie

newbie — Thu, 21 May 2009 14:05:09 +0000

Cool thought!! I asked myself the same question – thought a white guy was out of place for Jacob – I expected him to be darker featured much like Richard — perhaps that only lends to the dark vs. light / good vs. evil imagery.

I thought that too – primarily because of the bodies having to be buried deep thing — like if he (Not-Locke) can’t see the body – he can’t assume its shape. They both (Jacob too) can assume forms.

I know this is flawed but — Not-Locke formless at that time was trapped in the cabin by the ash circle . . . “Help me” to John remember! Hurley stumbles across to the cabin remember – did he break the circle??? All of the sudden these incarnations of dead people begin showing up everywhere – Jacob when he traveled to the Real-World appeared to the losties as himself — was it then “Not-Locke” that was appearing as the dead messengers?

By: DezziesOtherLifeBrotha

DezziesOtherLifeBrotha — Wed, 20 May 2009 18:50:30 +0000

Nay, it was already CONFIRMED the statue was Vincent.

By: INawe

INawe — Wed, 20 May 2009 07:44:08 +0000

You are all totaly spinning off… making connections at everything…with nothing.

i guess that is kind of “normal”, considering the whole mindf@ck the lost creators has done to us…

But keep it on a level with all the stable answers we got..

It is only logical to assume that the whole mythology of LOST is not something very specific like Egyptian Gods or Atlantis or whatever and just that…

Its a mix of the greatest mythologies that we have known so far..
It sort of has everything in it.. so we shouldn’t try and say “oh..its THAT!!!”
Its something a lot more complicated due to its mix.

By: V3L

V3L — Tue, 19 May 2009 21:22:50 +0000

does any1 know if it is true that jacob was in the lost pilot as a mute character??? read it off some blog

By: V3L

V3L — Tue, 19 May 2009 21:03:39 +0000

thats wat i was thinking aswell. it could be that that was the case ie they didnt wanna get in his way

By: V3L

V3L — Tue, 19 May 2009 20:36:33 +0000

thx. that makes more sense to me now. the reason i thought they knew and still do anything was the fact that they had begun moving the crate etc ( as if it was theirs and they knew wat was in it) the same day that locke and ben left for the main island (caesar getting shot). when ben asked wats in the crate and if they needed help they said, no, its just sumthing they need moving as if they knew it was of great significance.

anyways ur answer makes more sense . thx again

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 19 May 2009 17:42:48 +0000

A few comments from the above wonderful string:

1) What lies in the shadow of the statue? He who will save us all. Anyone else think that this might be Faraday? We can assume that his body was buried at some point by his mother, once she realized who he was. As leader, maybe she buried him near Jacob to be healed?

2) If the theory that the bomb going off actually caused the incident, that would mean that Faraday came back with the intention of doing just that. How does this fit in with everything? If he came back to ensure the energy was released, 815 came to the island, etc, then what is his end game? Another suggestion that he will play a larger role.

3) The statue definitely seems to be Sobek. Both the physical similarities and the descriptions of Sobek seem to align well with Jacob.

By: neoloki

neoloki — Tue, 19 May 2009 17:24:47 +0000

One other thing: while reading your article I noticed you separated the word candidate from the sentence it was in which made me think that when Illiana suggests that Frank could be a “candidate” I have a feeling that Jacob told Iliana that He would end up being killed by MM and would need a body to inhabit in order to counter MM’s loophole plan. Illiana and Bram are looking for “candidates” that would be appropriate for Jacob to use. This could be why Beings like Jacob and MM look so Western European and talk with an English dialect. Over the generations they find humans that they can take the image of. This might be some what faulty logic seeing as there are two Locke bodies, but I am going with it for now.

May 17, 2009 12:31 PM

By: neoloki

neoloki — Tue, 19 May 2009 17:17:26 +0000

I posted the same thing last week on Jo’s website comments.

By: neoloki

neoloki — Tue, 19 May 2009 17:15:34 +0000

I don’t. Lost has gotten way to incestuous. With all the related to answers.

By: neoloki

neoloki — Tue, 19 May 2009 17:12:36 +0000

They took fake JOHN to show Jacob what they were up against. This was mentioned when they were outside the shack. Obviously, Illiana and Bram had a healthy respect for the power of the person impersonating Locke and it is not out of the question to assume that Illiana is aware of the identity of the man in black since she is friends with Jacob. So, they didn’t do anything to non-Locke when he was wandering around the crash site because they were afraid of him.

By: neoloki

neoloki — Tue, 19 May 2009 17:03:57 +0000

I think this person is just screwing with people. If not I want the medication he/she is on.

By: casualbycomparisonloster

casualbycomparisonloster — Tue, 19 May 2009 15:11:32 +0000

Interesting – Yemi (sp?) was a dead body that arrived on the island via an airplane crash – just as Christian and now Locke…all three of which seen walking around and interacting with people…

By: Michel

Michel — Tue, 19 May 2009 14:34:37 +0000

Obviously, they found the body after Fake John had already “resurrected”. They came with another mission to the island, and finding dead Locke after seeing another identical one walking around was just an unforeseen eventuality. They met Fake John first, wondering where had he come from, and AFTER that they found Dead Locke’s coffin in the plane’s cargo.

Jacob maybe knew he was going to get killed, but the Ilana’s team didn’t. They were carrying the corpse around as evidence to join forces with Alpert to resist the arrival of Fake John. In fact, whatever mission Jacob sent Ilana to the island on, one of its first steps was to meet with Jacob’s close allies like Richard and identify them through the password (“What lies in the shadow of the Statue?”).

By: richie k

richie k — Tue, 19 May 2009 11:58:49 +0000

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.biasci.com/polyorg/Sobek_idol.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.biasci.com/polyorg/Sobek_idol.htm&usg=__wtAdCckPqPd3jdZGkbwCToJi3mc=&h=885&w=461&sz=77&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=QFS5gIAoyGOwnM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=76&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsobek%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

i know abc said it was tawaret, but could they be wrong? im pretty sure this look just like our statue! look at the feet!
oh and the wiki page for sobek has it listed as a fertility god too.
im not an expert though