Is the Island actually “bad” and everything that seems to be “controlled” by the Island (healing, attracting visitors, shifting time, killing certain people etc.) is for a malevolent intent?

And, folks like Alpert, Hawking, Linus etal are trying to prevent the Island from is mission, it’s final goal, it’s purpose?

And if we take the two suppositions above and compare it to everything we have already seen, does it present a possible new way to look at the plots?

Your opinions?

WLN

I live in the U.K and since SKY doesn’t screen the episodes here until four days after it’s U.S premiere, I read the episode recaps on ABC.com every Thursday. I bet you all just want to scream right now, and hey, each to their own, but even a theory can be a spoiler. Think about it. What if Boone does appear in the episode, hypothetically speaking, of-course. Wouldn’t the revelation be somewhat spoiled by virtue of reading the theory?

I guess it comes down to the same old solution. If you don’t want to know what’s happening in the show until it screens on television, then stay off the internet, otherwise you’re bound to find something that will eventually ruin your chance of being surprised, whether it be deliberate or not.

Here were a couple of things we discussed- off topic but hey. In 3:16, Ben was the person giving Jack the Bible lesson. I don’t really think it matters whether or not you believe the religious aspect of what he was saying- just that out of all the characters who could have said something like that, they picked *BEN* to educate on Doubting Thomas. Symbolism? Maybe. What does that mean for Ben? Why him….

And secondly, I’ve asked this numerous times and honestly don’t think I’ve gotten an answer yet. Did we actually see YoungerBen killing off all the Dharma people? I remember Richard saying that he had to prove himself…. and I later remember Ben saying something similar to Locke about his father… but I don’t remember actually seeing thru the show him doing it. Flipping the switch, releasing the gas, whatever. Is it possible that there was some slight of hand there? Don’t get me wrong. Killing your dad (or in Locke’s case having Sawyer do it) doesn’t immediately award you for the Nobel Peace Prize, but are we sure he’s not being blamed– or taking credit– for something that he didn’t do?

Maybe I just want that to happen, lol. Because I don’t trust the “I have an errand to run” scene, then seeing him covered with blood, panicked on the phone with Jack. Again, “panicked” can be open to interpretation.

Okay I’m thinking too much. What do you think?

im just gunna bring a couple of things togerhter from all serius

mainly about dhamma

we know tht the others are evil from all serius and are very smart and whitty but have understmated our castways on many ocasion e.g were like 10 get blown up at end of serius 3 goin back to serius 2 were locke and eko first find the pearl station how it was eko’s dream tht lead them there etc ben and juilet went into the pearl station before and watched them in teh swan “button station” also the medical sattion were claire was takken, and later the zoo station were jack kate and saywer were kept are all abbned after use. which i dont understand why and did anyone notice how almost ever person on hte island is linked ?? cba t go trough all links but theres alot ive got a lot more theroies but im jsut gunna trown in a long hsot ere and say

tht the island as 2 personaties sumtimes

the nice healing one and then the nasty killing one ” adventures”

do u find it sum how a couisedcne tht jacoobs messange “jacks dad” is a doctor = healing

but wt if

jacoob is like locke wts t be at one with the island and explore it etc
and jack is hte healing part and thts why he shud have never left.

this theroies based mainly on first 3 serius not seen 4th fully yet so cant relly make judjment

finnally

tht last eposide were ocianic 6 get bk to island its been 3 years so wt ever locke did t stop island shiftin in time ” put whell back on axis” well there stuck in tht time and dhamma was still goin then and wt if our castawys take over dhamma and run it probberly

i also think desmond is important in this b’coz he cna tim travle and seems to be the only one t succesfully change the futer yes, so wt if thy spin wheel other wya wud it go bk in time and there fore wne locke was a live and cud desmond say to him like in so many years dont kill ur self jack will return to the isalnd he just needs to bu guided the right way or summet.

jsut a couple of ideas in my head trown together

sorry bout speelling im kinda stupid :L

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As long as he is acting for himself his legs work. When he is on the right track the yang takes away that gift.

1) When he needed direction in opening the hatch, leading to the finding of the crashed plane and Boone’s death, which resulted in the pounding on the hatch that prevented Desmond from committing suicide.

2) The blast door incapacitated him and put him in a position to see the map on the door, which led to the finding of the Pearl.

3) If Ben hadn’t shot Locke (resulting in what appeared to be paralysis,) he would have returned with Ben to the other’s camp, and thus would not have known to attempt to prevent Naomi and Jack from contacting the freighter.

4) Ethan’s shooting of Ben gave a reason for Alpert to find Ben (though we haven’t been shown this yet) and give him the compass, leading to Alpert’s interest in Ben as a potential leader.

The island knows that Locke’s legs are his greatest emotional weakness – there’s no better way to get his attention than threatening to take away the gift that it gave him.

I still believe that the island is ultimately good, it just has a rather severe way of letting people know what needs to be done.

John goes back because he’s looking for meaning in his own conflicted life.

Jack goes back purely out of faith that there is something HE must do for the good of everyone (he is a doctor and has often acted as a hero and defiant in spirit.

Of course, he may well be a sucker like John. Only time will tell.

But since the issue being discussed here is if the Island is actually a bad thing, some malevolent force with the intent to harm Earth, perhaps Bad Ben Ben Bad is taking advantage of that for his own DIABOLICAL means.

I suspect there are two forces competing against each other on the Island, much like the Ben vs. Widmore or Jack/Science vs. John/Faith themes.

There is yin and yang for all things, supposedly, for those few of us out here that have shrugged off the relativism faith of the Left.

There is Good and Bad.

Let me be more blunt: With the application of Reason there is a Good and EVIL that can be defined, and it’s not from relative points of view. I suppose those who murder or commit genocide or rape or steal can claim from their view they are just products of Nature. Since Nature has long been the environ of the Left that is supreme over existence (in sharp contrast to Western reasoning that there is some Supreme Force over even Nature), such people we deem criminals do indeed have an argument. That is the argument of Relativism – right and wrong is determinate on point of view.

I suspect – and hope! – that the Lost creators have an understanding of Right and Wrong, of the two universal truths that have conflicted with each other since the Creation…or maybe even forever. Much like each individual battles him or herself throughout life, I suspect whatever Supreme Intelligence exists has done so as well, and Existence (of reasoning beings) is compelled to do the same.

I predict he will only be relevant in flashbacks or as a ghost like Charlie.

Ben bad bad Ben.

The man has committed massacre. He has murdered for revenge, and vowed to go even further by murdering an innocent (Penny – probably dead now).

He has also used his manipulative skills to abuse the emotions of those around him. Hugo comes to mind, here. Can there be a more innocent victim on Lost?

No, WLN, there is difference between innocent people getting hurt as a fact of life and innocent people being hurt that has nothing to do with the Rule of Nature.

Humans, as creatures of Reason and unlike any other known creature, have the capacity to determine fairness with the exception of the Rule of Nature.

Is it possible Ben, Hawking and the Others have, for all these years, been responsible for keeping the Island from doing something bad to the rest of the world?

My point is, try looking at the story so far and imagine that the Island is the “bad guy.”

I think the Island is in a different dimension/timeline. One where Locke never fell 8 stories; and Rose never had cancer.

I predict Locke’s value in this story, and why he’ll be revived, is because he will tell a young Ben Linus everything he knows. Locke will be a leader of the Others during the Dharma Initiative 70′s/80′s and will be the one to order the destruction of the Dharma folks (the Purge). We’ll see some of the Oceanic 6 with Locke and The Others and some of them joining Dharma.