Comments on: Alternate Reality Rumble

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By: rubyfox

rubyfox — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:01:06 +0000

This thread is great because my husband and I were trying to figure this out last night…. BUT… I have a question… I think it might pertain only to the 70′s period of the show… Does that count as an alternate reality? or just ” Time Travel ” because there is that period of time after the hatch explodes where they shift through time a few different times… but I don’t know that I would count those as alternate realities… because it is still them… just time travelling in different times… not a different version of them living in a parallel reality????? any thoughts on that???

By: Lycanthropist

Lycanthropist — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:00:47 +0000

yeah I gotta agree with dp2 on this…

we cant think about it as “changing”.

This is a whole different timeline. They are not reliving it. We are seeing the same characters in a different reality that is running parallel to our original story.

By: Shaun

Shaun — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:43:30 +0000

Darlton seemed to say otherwise on Jimmy Kimmel’s show Tuesday night. I think Jughead changed the timeline on the island, and that caused something else to happen that sank the island at a later date.

By: Alain

Alain — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:09:08 +0000

Agreed. No sure MIB/Flocke is bad and Jacob is good. Might actually be the opposite – of they might be 2 players in a game with no one better than the other. Proof of that would be Jacob taking Sayid’s appearance.
Outstanding show. What will life be after May 23rd?

By: Thursday Tidbits – Including LOST « Dog-eared and Well-read

Thursday Tidbits – Including LOST « Dog-eared and Well-read — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:04:16 +0000

[...] Thoughts on the two different universes. [...]

By: Jack's Sidekick

Jack's Sidekick — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:06:31 +0000

If you think about it, the second alternate reality seemed a bit familiar, as in the episode “Flashes Before Your Eyes,” (Season 3-episode 8)where Desmond went through a very similar situation. I think this alternate reality might be the same as the one Desmond witnessed, maybe a bit different though.

By: arrow

arrow — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:37:41 +0000

I’m not so sure Smoke Monster Locke is all bad. I dug up some info at tvovermind on an interview Jon posted lasted year – how Damon signed a copy of Half blood Prince and said Locke was very similar to Snape. If I remember right Snape was following Dumbledores’ orders even up to the point of killing Dumbledore. Could Jacob have wanted to find a way to be killed? IS this why he is now free to leave the island to connect with people?

By: Jamie La Flor

Jamie La Flor — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:49:28 +0000

Great episode, I’m happy that Lost is back, and we’re finally getting more answers. Of course there are new questions to answer, and sadly, Lost is concluding, but it’s nice to see everything come together. It’s been nice reading the thoughts of others, and I’m finally thinking about all the possibilities. At 1st, I was confused about the time period, but it became obvious after seeing the fireworks. As for Jack’s neck, it’s the wound from the bullet that grazed his neck in the previous episode. It was when Jack, and Sayid, were escaping from the Dharma barracks. As for the significance of it, I’m not sure, but it probably has something to do with the 2 alternate realities we’re dealing with. Like others have theorized, maybe these 2 realities are connected in some way. I’m sure we’ll get the answers eventually. It’s to bad Faraday’s not around to explain it.

By: Cutter XXIII

Cutter XXIII — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:31:48 +0000

Every episode is its own reality, obviously. Can somebody chart that out for me?

If you run out of Greek letters, use Zapf Dingbats.

By: dp2

dp2 — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:24:42 +0000

IFTP, I look forward to any time travel/alternate reality essays you will be writing for this season.

By: dp2

dp2 — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:18:53 +0000

The problem here is everyone is focusing on what happens to the Losties based on the explosion. You need to ask: what happens to the *energy* they’re trying to neutralize if there’s no bomb? I contend (and I credit others in this thread for thinking of it first) that the energy unleashed by Radzinski’s wanton drilling is what sank the island. In our familiar timeline, Jughead going off *saved* the island. And hey, that’s exactly what we’ve been trying to do, isn’t it?

By: Ed Holden

Ed Holden — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:18:43 +0000

Indeed, I meant Jake’s story as it was resumed in The Wastelands. The paradox led to two Jakes, one dead and one alive, and conflicting memories for the main character Roland. He solved this by bringing Jake into his world a second time.

By: dp2

dp2 — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:55:46 +0000

I like the idea that the island was sunk by the drilling.

As for how this reality started, I suggest there are really infinite timelines. Why we’re concerned with this particular one is the question.

By: David

David — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:45:46 +0000

dp2, I believe the same as you. I think we are to assume that Jughead causes the second reality where the crash doesn’t happen, when it is in fact the original reality.

Dharma drilling at the swan site causes the island to sink, but the introduction of Jughead negates it and starts the chain of events of the show. Now how this new reality starts is the question….

By: dp2

dp2 — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:41:32 +0000

But it’s not an event happening once and then again. We (apparently) have two different timelines that coexist. If I have twin kittens, one with spots and one without, and I look at one and then the other, nothing changed; they’re just different.

“Change” would imply that the flight 815, the crash, etc., had all replaced by this new timeline, but that’s not what happened (based on what we’ve seen).

By: Illundiel

Illundiel — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:52:06 +0000

im a little confused. what causes a difference between an event happening once and then again? something changed…?

By: dp2

dp2 — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:39:30 +0000

I think Ed is referring to Jake’s story in the third book.

By: dp2

dp2 — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:37:42 +0000

Maybe I’m being pedantic, but I think this season it’s going to be *very* important to distinguish “change” from “difference”. These are two separate timelines. Nothing changed; things are different.

By: 5ws1h

5ws1h — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:28:46 +0000

Oh that would be a great cheesy spin-off! Maybe Jack Bauer could try and stop the Smoke Monster from terrorizing LA!

By: SaiyaGin

SaiyaGin — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:34:27 +0000

Is that possible with all that timeline and timetravel things??

By: SaiyaGin

SaiyaGin — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:32:35 +0000

It would be too cool if John Locke (Flocke) is not himself on the airport, and that means that the MIB left the island and is now in Los Angeles.

What do you mean??

By: calebrwhaley

calebrwhaley — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:16:29 +0000

i look at this way: when they are in 1977, there is 2 sawyers, jacks, hurley, etc. Because they already experienced the crash, they cannot change their past. But now that they set off the bomb, they can change the future for the sawyer, jack, etc in 1977 that are about 7 or 8 years old or whatever. Everything has changed for the younger lostees, but the ones we have seen for the last 5 seasons are still on the same path. They still have work to do

By: Illundiel

Illundiel — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:12:03 +0000

of course what you’re missing is the Schrodingers Cat equation(which many people are bringing in). what if the bomb is simultaneously detonating AND not detonating?

By: Illundiel

Illundiel — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:09:28 +0000

Except that in The Dark Tower it mentions how he gets closer each and everytime, which makes sense in Jacob’s “it only ends once, everything else is just progress” comment.