Comments on: TheTailsection Archive – The Libby Factor

By: tonymcnitt

tonymcnitt — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:27:36 +0000

Really? No more Libby? That really bothers me. Sometimes Darlton assume we just get it and they decide that we’ve seen enough of it. I thought when they revealed Libby in the mental institute with Hurley that something big was up with her, and then again her showing up for Desmond and giving him the boat? These are pretty big factors to me?

It’s the whole Michael disappointment all over again. So much to be done with that and they kind of let it fizzle with no pay off.

Granted, Darlton and the writers are geniuses so I’m certainly not begrudging them anything, I just thought Libby was a pretty important role as they made her seem.

By: Zonker

Zonker — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:06:36 +0000

I definitely think you’re on to / were on to something. If I understand the graphic correctly, you’re saying that 815 had to crash so that Locke could prevent Desmond from committing suicide? I’ve also wondered if one of the plans of the Time Cops (Hawking, etc.) was for Locke to be the one to activate the fail safe, rather than the supposedly cowardly Desmond. The island certainly seemed to be leading Locke to the Hatch, but then later the island (again via a dream) led him to the Pearl station, making him disillusioned with button-pushing. All in an attempt to move him into the position of smashing the Swan station computer. Maybe Locke was supposed to turn the fail safe, or maybe activating the fail safe was a bad thing, and Locke was supposed experience what happened when the Swan went boom. In that view, Desmond’s importance was to keep pushing the button up until the point when Locke arrived to assume his destiny at ground zero of the Swan implosion.

Perhaps that’s why Richard expects the young Locke to recognize the compass– Locke rather than Desmond was supposed to have achieved the ability to loop his consciousness through time.

By: Eric

Eric — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:53:06 +0000

Interesting theory but I think it was made pretty clear that the plane was planted by someone, and is not a real copy of the plane that crashed. So I am pretty sure that at least that part of it doesn’t make sense, especially considering Faraday’s Rules of Time Travel.

By: Desi's Brother

Desi's Brother — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:45:32 +0000

I started a thread on the Characters Forum which is a Petition for the writers to deal with Libby and finish her story.

I get so annoyed when I hear comments like the writers saying that Libby’s story is finished! WTF that is bull.

Anyway, join on the forum and hopefully they will see it.

By: docarzt

docarzt — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:29:30 +0000

actually there are infinite ways to make it work. What if the first time around they were not aware of the purpose of the swan? Kelvin would have died eventually, they may have bought the pearl orientation film hook line and sinker.

By: halla holla holla lost fan

halla holla holla lost fan — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 06:31:08 +0000

i have to disagree with the chart here. once desmond is on the island he is responsible for kelvin’s death. he is also responsible for crashing 815 to the island. so desmond on island = 815 on island. even if desmond never came, the others new that kelvin was down there pushing the button and if kelvin died, the others would fix it. the time loop theory does not fit in with the rule that you cannot change the past. desmond is the only one that the rules dont apply to, the losties are skipping through time which to everyone else past or future that interacts with them is how it actually happened. though time is like a recored still think of time as an unchangeable straight line, which has a beginning middle and end, just like a record you can go back to previous tracks but cannot rewrite the music. mrs. hawking knows what could happen, and cannot stop by herself whatever the catastrophe is, as a result of the 6 not getting back to the island. though there is only one outcome that will happen and no one knows what that will be, everyone has choices to make still, it is up to mrs. hawking, ben and whomever ( because are the only ones that know what will happen if sh-t doesnt go right) to convince the losties to make the right decisions. everyone has a destiny on lost, some people choose to ignore it and bad things happen (the oceanic 6) if the losties do not save the island, time itself (the record) will stop and end prematurely and endgame, no restarts no loops no nothing.

By: horace goodspeed

horace goodspeed — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 04:27:42 +0000

I love the concept. I only wonder how it can be neatly unfolded in the narrative. That is to say, is it an overt plot element, or is it more for the secondary canon (i.e., online experience; video game)?

By: Righto

Righto — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:55:19 +0000

A lingering question I have is this: Why did they need a physical human being as a button pusher? Certainly a simple computer program would suffice if all that was needed to happen was to have an electrical signal sent to some device every 108 minutes. So in my mind, it was all just some psychological experiment on the button pushees, or there is more to it than just the button. Has there been a post on this already? If so, please someone give me the link to that post.

By: SonyaLynn

SonyaLynn — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:49:05 +0000

Way to go, Doc! I think you cracked the mystery of Libby well in advance. My hat’s off to you.

At this point, I think one of the bigger questions is, “which events do all ‘players’ know have to happen so they ensure that they do, and which ones are the attempted manipulations to gain the upper hand?”

By: Daniel

Daniel — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:42:49 +0000

Actually, we won’t be seeing her again or getting the full dirt on her backstory
Damon and Carlton recently said that they felt Libby’s story was pretty much done as far as they’re concerned..so we won’t be seeing anything or finding anything more out I’m a bit disappointed

By: Angel

Angel — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:11:10 +0000

Thanks for touching on Libby (albiet over a year ago, but none the less), I have always known Libby plays a more important role than just a Tailie that gets killed off too early (damn you Darlton!) I am fully confident we will see her again before the end of the series, even if its just in flashbacks

By: bryan

bryan — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:12:49 +0000

you were definitely one or two steps ahead of us on that one Doc…16 months ago I would have read this and thought you were way out there. now i think you’re flirting heavily with the truth.