Comments on: Marc Oromaner’s Lost In Myth: Does “Knowing” Know Something We Don’t Know About LOST?

By: Chillkorn pichayawut

Chillkorn pichayawut — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:40:03 +0000

KNOWING 2012

By: ilovecress

ilovecress — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:43:30 +0000

Except Cloverfield was written by one of the Lost writers, and produced by JJ Abrams.

By: Benmanben

Benmanben — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:52:51 +0000

Can you not see the burning similarities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Honestly, a plane crash, numbers predicting the end of the world, and mysterious whispers a definitly done purposfully!

By: Benmanben

Benmanben — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:48:59 +0000

30 ROCK

I first noticed it when they kept mentioning the movie “Some Like it Hot” about a week after the episode of LOST “Some like it Hoth” aired. Then I was really suspicious of the missing runaway father story. The Kidney story just solidified it all…

Are they trying to give us clues through other shows????????

By: Jack Daniels

Jack Daniels — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:43:15 +0000

Perhaps the 9/11 terrorists had watched movies such as Armageddon, Godzilla etc. and decided that since Hollywood were obsessed with creating films that depicted major American cities being levelled they would use that as a basis for their attacks.

PLEASE NOTE: This is not not an anti-American sentiment, as I don’t have any, and even if I did I would not use a LOST blog to air them, I’m simply pointing out that nobody seems to have thought about it this way.

By: nawawala

nawawala — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:01:04 +0000

Thanks for the article, Marc. As usual, it was awesome and offered a different perspective on Lost. Regarding the similarities in movie themes, I remember it was 1999 when the movies “The Sixth Sense” and “The Others” both came out which coincided with the public having a higher knowledge and understanding of paranormal. I’m not sure if the theme of these movies became a result or the cause of this evolved consciousness, but I thought its worth sharing.

By: johr77

johr77 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:08:39 +0000

I watched this movie a few weeks ago,
I enjoyed it.
I did notice some similarity’s to lost
but i think they were more just similarity’s to SiFi.

enjoyed the article.

By: Dolce

Dolce — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:09:00 +0000

Spiderman was actually already done most of the filming when the events of 9/11 occured. In fact they had to remove a scene that included the WTC. However, the timing of it’s release could not have come at a better time, because, yes, super hero movies do comfort us in times of stress. Certainly the wild success of the film and the new post-9/11 world led to the avalanche of films in that genre that continue to be successful to this day.

By: grasspike

grasspike — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:29:49 +0000

Bad Robot is the production company owned and run by J. J. Abrams. J.J. is a co-creator, writer, executive producer, and director for Lost.

To say that the Bad Robot team does not bring is us Lost is totally incorrect

By: whateverhappenedhappened

whateverhappenedhappened — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:26:43 +0000

Each to their own.

By: whateverhappenedhappened

whateverhappenedhappened — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:23:04 +0000

I suppose it depends on which way you look at it. In many ways, yes, you are very right: Cloverfield is extremely post-9/11 (probably in more ways than it isn’t). But what I was getting at was that pre-9/11 cinema was much more free to show cities being destroyed (independence day, godzilla) and now that is quite a rough terrain. Yes, it has been done in Cloverfield and other recent films, but it is un-debatable that since 9/11 this kind of film has decreased and, fundamentally, changed.

By: Ament

Ament — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:08:13 +0000

WILSON!!!
WALT!!!

By: Ament

Ament — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:41:38 +0000

Hollywood creativity is in short supply, we all know that and can see it with remakes of remakes…how many part 3 and 4′s are coming out next summer. “The Simpsons” great show but lets face it “The Flintstones” came out years before, which funnily enough was an animated prehistoric version of “The Honeymooners”.

Let’s just say “Knowing” got some ideas from “Lost” are we saying nothing impacted the thought behind “Lost”? Anyone see “Castaway”?….plane crash….making use of salvage….building a raft…..emotional connection to the island. All you needed was the fire making scene in “Lost” and “Castaway” can be a “Lost” recap episode for season 1. “Lost” adapted and became unique, thats why it will be my favorite.

By: thorsten

thorsten — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:25:08 +0000

Damon and Carlton refer to the zombie season quite often, it reminded me of Robert A. Heinleins story ‘—All You Zombies—’ from 1958, which has it all. Time travel and fertility paradoxes…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_You_Zombies—

By: Marc Oromaner

Marc Oromaner — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:31:21 +0000

Nearly all Dr. Seuss stories were parables aimed at teaching a complicated lesson in a way children could understand. Kind of how LOST explains complicated spiritual and religious concepts by using an island as a microcosm of the world we live in, and its inhabitants as archetypes of all of us. There, I saved you some time. The moral of the story is nothing is pointless. Even your belief that something is pointless has a point. Your screen name, Wintermute–winter is a time of death, mute is silence. Your avatar is the angel of death or ghost of X-Mas Future (mute) or iconic representations of them. If you haven’t already seen “Harold and Maude,” check it out. I think you’ll enjoy it:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067185/

By: Marc Oromaner

Marc Oromaner — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:21:28 +0000

I agree that super hero movies come out to comfort us in stressful times. However, I also believe that writers are modern-day shaman that pick up on events that have yet to “happen.” I use that term coming from our perspective because I believe that time is an illusion that there is actually only one moment. It’s kinda like a CD-ROM video game. From the perspective of the character, there are events happening in time. But we know it’s all been coded and can take out the disc and hold the characters whole story in our hand at one moment. I believe our world works similarly. I’m in the multiverse camp where there are an infinite number of universes and we simply pop into the ones where our thoughts are taking us.

By: Marc Oromaner

Marc Oromaner — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:16:08 +0000

I agree that “Knowing” was a pretty generic sci-fi movie and also pretty predictable. Still, I think it’s worth watching. While i wish I could get paid every time I plug some movie and TV show, alas, I am not on the payroll. I mentioned the DVD simply to make the article relevent (since the movie came out months ago), and to let people know it was not available if they were open to watching a lousy sci-fi movie with some mythology similar to LOST’s. Sure, it’s not done as well, but it’s better than nothing in the off-season.

As far as super hero movies coming out more now because of special effects, I’d say that this is making them better, but super hero movies come and go. Usually, as another poster commented, during or after a war or terror to give us hope. However, what’s different now is all the movies about ordinary people with super abilities. There have been no less than 20 in the last year alone.

By: Marc Oromaner

Marc Oromaner — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:08:46 +0000

If you would like to hone your nascent super abilities, if you have a clock radio or iPod alarm, before going to sleep at night, ask the universe (or whatever you believe in) to give you a sign with the song that wakes you up the next morning. You can even ask it a question. After awhile, you’ll get an answer (usually with a sense of humor), most of the time. Sure, the mind can make things work, but I’m telling you, the answers I’ve gotten are uncanny! It’s pretty cool.

By: Mack

Mack — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:42:16 +0000

I see your point and I appreciate your perspective. I totally agree with the no angels or aliens. The lost writers are pretty smart and I am sure they will come up with something pretty unique and jaw dropping amazing ending. Man, waiting for Lost to return is killer.

By: michael

michael — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:52:40 +0000

..didnt you say that post 9/11, for film etc, things changed for good & that you couldnt show buildings falling down etc……but…cloverfield…was intentionally designed, shot, scripted etc so as to play on post-9/11 fears. I havent really thought about it before, but…surely Abrams is fundamentally post-9/11 rather than pre-9/11?

By: michael

michael — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:15:19 +0000

yes and no..it didnt actually say that the aliens werent angels or so forth. personally i think they were just trying to maintain just enough separation from the notion of the rapture that someone not looking for it or possibly just not very observant would feel comfortable watching.

…anyway, i hope to god that LOST tries to avoid angels OR aliens lol.

By: Mack

Mack — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:24:24 +0000

It may be christian but it completely disregards all christian theology by stating that in the end all bible myth is the product of Alien intervention and not a metaphysical being.

By: whateverhappenedhappened

whateverhappenedhappened — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:07:19 +0000

Hence me saying that JJ Abrams has had a huge impact on restoring Cinema and TV to how it was pre 9/11.

By: michael

michael — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:35:35 +0000

The Knowing is – literally and absoloutely – an apocalyptic fantasy, pitched squarely at the bible belt: it is completely and unabashedly christian in its themes, motifs etc – in way which was actually fairly over the top. Now, i don’t have a problem with this in any way, i just think that it certainaly limits its possible relevance to lost….which i think does deal with themes of faith etc commonly approached with a shed-load of christian imagery, but in such a way as to directly avoid being “tarred with the same brush”. Also, i think that in the plot thusfar, it is clear that there is some sort of end-of-the-world scenario in play & gradually being revealed…..but the way in which The Knowing dealt with this was (sorry, SPOILERS) to have angel-like aliens swoop from the heavens and take the innocent children (RRRRRRR-AUPTURE!) away to a garden-like world of grassy plains and highly symbolic silvery trees, whilst earth got extra well-done just as the guy from Con Air rediscovered his christian faith, thanks to the love and support of his formerly estranged evangelical parents. Again – not an anti-christian rant, i’m a christain myself. However, suffice to say, id be displeased if LOST ended in such a way: crushed beneath a fist of purest ham.

By: Andy

Andy — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:24:47 +0000

Actually, the Floyd/Oz connection was deliberate.