Comments on: LOST Wars! Does Daniel/Charlotte = Luke/Leia?

By: Katy

Katy — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:26:26 +0000

What about Chang’s baby? It was very young, and he seemed very familiar with the island’s abilities and his DI script. I assumed that the baby had been born, on island, before the births began to be terminated. Maybe the event that caused this to happen occured after Chang and Ellie’s children were born? Or maybe Ellie just left the island before her time was up.

By: Sonya

Sonya — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:14:26 +0000

Unless Jack turns out to be adopted, he and Claire are half bother and sister. I’m not sure about the rest.

By: Halowax

Halowax — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:57:54 +0000

Egads!

This is what I immediatley thought!!!

All week I have been reading this “hawking and widmore lovers” theory… and I’m like, really? Isn’t it obvious that they are brother and sister?

I really wanted to be the first one to post this, but alas, I will gladly join your camp… the right camp, imo…

By: Steven

Steven — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:39:42 +0000

Uh…anyone forgetting people can’t be born on the island? Something about complications with the pregnancies and the mothers/babies all dying???

Nice theory, but unless Ellie was pregnant before she got to the island, she’d be dead and so would any offspring.

By: Brian

Brian — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:56:43 +0000

If indeed either Farraday/Charlotte and/or Widmore and Eloise are bro/sis, they would not be the first bro/sis combo we have seen since that was Boone/Shannon

By: Annie

Annie — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:52:59 +0000

Not so sure about that. Remember Kate’s ‘shut up James’ to Sawyer as she climbed out of her cage and went to his. In that same episode, they became lovers and remain connected romantically to this day.

By: Mirko

Mirko — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:51:54 +0000

Absolutely!
“Charles Widmore and Elouis Hawking are brother and sister.”
That’s exactly what I thought when I saw that scene.

What I found interesting is that Mr Whidmore under these circumstances would come out to be Daniel’s uncle what leads me to the impression that Desmond’s journey to the island was destined as a fundamental step to a later family reunion (maybe here comes some more course correction into play) given the more and more important relationship between Des&Dan.

By: VeryInformedAboutLost

VeryInformedAboutLost — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:36:58 +0000

wow…i never thought about the teasing thing between ellie and widmore on the island…that is something siblings do….not lovers…wow righto…spot on..

By: JOJO

JOJO — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:22:54 +0000

Hi Marc, great tip, thanks. Did you read my comment? Would love to know what you think?
” I never heard that Widmore supposedly had 3 kids and 2 being twins. This has changed my mind about Charlotte being Daniel’s daughter. But it has made me think about the childhood of all the Oceanic 6. I think they were all only children (can someone confirm that) and we know at least John and possibly Sawyer were raised in foster homes (Sawyer, after his parents died). Is it possible that Sun, Kate, Hurley, Jack and Sayid were also all adopted? Could they all have been born to Others from the island and raised off the island by someone else? I could go on but would love to hear of someone else is starting to puzzle this together?

(BTW, are you doing a audio version of The Myth Of Lost?). I love your book!!

By: JOJO

JOJO — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:55:10 +0000

I never heard that Widmore supposedly had 3 kids and 2 being twins. This has changed my mind about Charlotte being Daniel’s daughter. But it has made me think about the childhood of all the Oceanic 6. I think they were all only children (can someone confirm that) and we know at least John and possibly Sawyer were raised in foster homes (Sawyer, after his parents died). Is it possible that Sun, Kate, Hurley, Jack and Sayid were also all adopted? Could they all have been born to Others from the island and raised off the island by someone else? I could go on but would love to hear of someone else is starting to puzzle this together?

By: Jangras

Jangras — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:06:05 +0000

Mmmmh… Am I the only one who’s scared about Lost turning into ‘Guiding Light’ or ‘The Bold & The Beautiful?’ Please don’t… A is brother to B who is the father of C who is married to D who…Please don’t..

By: marc oromaner

marc oromaner — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:21:17 +0000

Hey Axel,

Nice theory! While I’ve never read it, I heard that in “Bad Twin,” Widmore supposedly had three kids, two of whom were twins. So, that would fit in with your theory–Penny and the twins Charlotte and Daniel. Not sure what their names were in the book b/c I don’t think it was cannon, but still interesting.

By: professorstotch

professorstotch — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:51:27 +0000

This also doesn’t account for why Miles, Sawyer, Juliet, and Daniel aren’t bleeding.

By: Hipster Doofus

Hipster Doofus — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:04:53 +0000

Wooooooow.

I love the writers of this show. I really love the separated twins thing. Great theory. Well done.

By: Vide

Vide — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:48:25 +0000

But she is bleeding in the “present”, I mean, there were the flash and the camp disappeared, so they weren’t in the ’50s anymore.

By: Dave Thompson

Dave Thompson — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:42:58 +0000

I always wondered how Faradey knew that the particular rat he was experimenting on in 1996 that he sent Desmond to see was the one called “Eloise”, since a lot must have died, Faraday seems to have memory problems… Faraday probably called all of his rats “Eloise” after his mom.

Do you think what pushed Ms. Hawkings to study time and space was Faraday’s comments about time-travel?

By: John Voigt

John Voigt — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:38:54 +0000

Good point….I B DUM

By: Alaine

Alaine — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:27:24 +0000

I agree with your theory. When Widmore said “Shut up Ellie” it sounded very much like a brother and a sister interchange. This also explains why off island Charles Widmore would not kill Mrs. Hawking for helping Ben find the island again.

By: Righto

Righto — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:12:11 +0000

Charles Widmore and Elouis Hawking are brother and sister.
Upon re-watching I think that Charles Widmore and Eloise Hawking are brother and sister. When Charles Widmore comes running back into camp, he tells Richard “we were outnumbered but I escaped..” to which Ellie says “outnumbered eh?” and Charles Widmore responds “shut up Ellie.” The teasing Ellie gives to Charles and the ‘shut up’ is something you do with siblings, not your girlfriend/wife. So yes, I think that Ellie is Elois Hawking, who might be Daniel Faraday’s mum, but I don’t think Hawking and Widmore ever produced children together. With this reasoning, Penny Widmore and Daniel Faraday might be cousins, and I have no idea who the parents of Charlotte are.

By: El Yerbero

El Yerbero — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:09:54 +0000

But Locke wasnt born on the island. .

By: John Voigt

John Voigt — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:01:36 +0000

Not sure if that works Joe, we know Locke talked with Richard in 1954 and he wasn’t born until 1956.

By: John Voigt

John Voigt — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:00:21 +0000

I just posted something similar in the promo pics section, at least as far as Daniel/Charlotte being brother/sister. The twin angle is interesting. This could explain also why Widmore knows where Mrs F is, and may even know she is working with Ben, but has not harmed her. Long lost love can soften any man’s heart.

By: Joe Johnson

Joe Johnson — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:10:01 +0000

Perhaps people who are born on the island can’t exist on the island in a time frame prior to their birth. THus Charlotte’s nosebleed.