I’m back! I’ve been away from the main page for a few weeks, and I know you all missed me. Today I come with a little top ten list. These are the things that I personally am awaiting the answers for. You may not agree, and that’s fine. Feel free to post your own lists in the bottom and we’ll have us an ol’ fashioned discussion!
10. How did Ben get Alex?
This may seem trivial at this point in the game, but it’s something I’m still very interested in. Did Ben snatch her up as soon as she was out of the womb? Here’s a thought…did Danielle deliver the baby on her own? She claims to never have seen the Others, she only hears them whispering. I find that to be a little far-fetched. I mean, the 815ers came in contact with the Others on the very day they arrived on the island. For Danielle to say she hasn’t seen anyone in 16 years doesn’t make sense to me. So assuming she’s lying, completely crazy, or just covering things up, here’s what I’m thinking…
The Others helped Danielle deliver the baby. I’d assume it went down in the same fashion they were going to “help” Claire. Perhaps they used some sly phrasing such as: “Once we help you with the baby, you can live in peace. We’ll never bother you again.” A scared, young, naive Danielle thinks they’re referring to her and the baby, but we know better. The Others deliver the baby, snatch it away, and send Danielle back into the jungle. She hasn’t seen the Others in 16 years, because they’re keeping their word. They’re letting her live in peace.
9. How old are the Others?
I’d say…old. I find it hard to believe that certain Others are “ageless” (Richard, I’m looking at you.) I do believe, that the civilization itself goes back many, many years. We’ve seen evidence of ancient civilizations throughout the course of the show. Most notably the heiroglyphics that keep conviniently popping up to remind us that we’re dealing with something that started long before 2004. So are the Others descendents of ancient Egyptians? Did their civilization begin on the island? Or did they find it some how? With all the time travel being introduced, is it not possible that the ancient Others could be the descendents of our future cast aways?
8. How does the island stay “hidden?”
Remember the season two finale? Now that was an epic twist. After two season of hearing theories that the castaways were in purgatory, or hell, or that it was all a dream created by Vincent, Darlton finally came out and showed us a glimpse of what was going on. It’s almost as if by writing the final scene of that finale, they were saying: “Hey, they’re in the real world. The island was hidden, and some one just found it. How’s your dog theory look now?” Some people are still claiming that it’s all a dream or a reality show, but we usually just shrug those off.
Now we’re forced to ask ourselves how the island stayed hidden on this time. How do you hide an entire island? The best theory I’ve heard so far has to do with using electromagnetism in high volumes to make things look invisible. Was that one of the purposes of the Swan Station? I’d only assume that it was the hiding of the island that made it so easy to come and go. Once the key was turned, the sky turned purple, and things weren’t so easy anymore.
7. Who are Adam and Eve?
Jack and Kate. Jack and Juliet. Kate and Sawyer. Sawyer and Juliet. Desmond and Penny. Ben and Annie. Aaron and Ji-Yeon. People we haven’t met yet. There are so many possibilities. Some may not find this as interesting as I do, and I understand that. I’m personally hoping for Kate and Sawyer. And I hope Jack’s the one who lays them there. The moment that Jack realizes the bodies he found in the early days were two of his cast away pal will be priceless. I’d really like to hear a good, plausible theory on who this could be. I challenge you!
6. Where did this limitless energy come from?
Does it have to do with the “unique properties” that we heard about so long ago? If so, what creates these unique properties? One thing I’m also curious about here, is that donkey wheel. In the season five opening scene, we saw a dead construction worker who had a little too much energy. We then saw a sonar image with the donkey wheel, and Candle warned of releasing the energy. It looks like this construction worker had the same nosebleed symptoms as all of our time jumpers. Some one must have built that donkey wheel. Did they lose a lot of lives while doing it? I just want to see who built the wheel, when they did it, and how they did it. It obviously existed before Dharma. Were the ancient Others using the time travel properties of the island before Dharma even showed up? And if so, how did they discover the kind of things the island could do? We need a detailed encyclopedia on Island History.
5. What makes Desmond so special?
I’m with the group that believes it has to do with the hatch implosion. While I’m not entirely sold on this idea, it’s the best one I’ve heard so far. Perhaps Desmond being at the center of it all had something to do with changing him and his influence. Or was he special before he even came to the island? Maybe that’s why he was sent there. I’ve always wondered if there was any race around the world, or if Widmore staged the whole thing to get Desmond to the island. Maybe he knew Desmond was special and knew he could have an influence in getting him to the island. The man was able to fake an entire crash site, I can only help but wonder what else he’d be capable of.
4. What’s with that statue?
Best theory I’ve heard is the Daniel theory proposed by Doc. We’ve been wondering about this since season two, and I think we’ll get an answer sooner than we may think. If you haven’t read Doc’s theory, you can find it here. While I think it’s an awesome theory, I can’t wait for the definitive answer. And I don’t want to just see the statue being shown. I want to see the reason they build it. Going back to a question from earlier; what if Daniel’s the reason the Other’s discover the unique properties of the island? But then wouldn’t this create a time paradox? Show me the reason these people have chosen to worship our quirky scientist. And if they do choose Daniel, does that mean he’s the only one to go back? I mean, if he had jumped with everyone else, why couldn’t they have chosen Jin or Sawyer?
And finally…does Daniel have four toes?
3. What was the incident?
I think the incident and the purge are unrelated. Most of Dharma was wiped out in the purge, and I find it hard to believe that the Others would’ve kept Dr. Candle alive just to film a few edited videos. I think the incident will have something to do with Dharma trying to exploit the island. I even have it in my head, that Dharma made an attempt at controlling the black smoke. Perhaps they even created it as a weapon to use on the hostiles? I’m not too sure about that part. But say their plan to exploit the island and control the smoke backfires on them. They make it angry, it takes a hold of Candle, drags him off, and he ends up losing his arm (similar to Montand.) Of course this would make a repeat offence, but really isn’t that unbelievable.
2. Who/What is Jacob?
We know that he’s the all-knowing leader of the Others. Everyone has a chain of command, and on the island, Jacob is at the top. But who is he? Is he some one we’ve already met, or will he turn out to be an entirely new character? I think he’s an Other who went Billy Pilgrim on us. He’s unstuck in time, and has the ability to see past, present, and future all at the same time. Jacob is special. The rules don’t apply to him. Hmmm…sounds like some one else we know. Could Desmond and Jacob be the same person?
Another Widmore theory here…maybe Widmore knows Desmond will end up becoming Jacob. Perhaps in the past, Jacob had ordered that Widmore be banished from the island for going against it’s laws. A bitter Widmore hates Desmond for the rest of his life. In order to change the past, he tries to prevent Desmond from ever reaching the island by sending him on a race around the world. Widmore’s hoping he’ll be unfit for the challenge, and Desmond will die at sea. But instead of preventing Desmond from reaching the island, Charles ends up aiding him. You can’t create a new street. Unless you’re Desmond/Jacob. Then you can do whatever the hell you want.
1. What’s with that black smoke thingy?
Other than wondering how so many people were able to survive a plane crash of that size, the black smoke has to be the single longest standing mystery on the show. No one knows what it is. And I’m sorry to say, you may have theories that you think are pretty solid, but every time this thing shows up, it manages to debunk every new theory I’ve read. I believe Damon and Carlton have already said we won’t get the definitive answer to what this thing is until season six. And that’s fine. I may be the most impatient person you’ll ever meet, but I actually love the slow trickle of information we’re fed about this thing. Is it a security system? Is it controlled by some one? Does it run on it’s own? A little bit of both? Is there more than one, each with a different personality? There are so many questions surrounding it, and I cannot wait until the answer comes. I think it’ll be both satisfying and rewarding to us hardcore viewers.
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Actually, I think number 10 is even more interesting than that. If Alex was born in January 1989, but the Purge and Ben’s joining the Others didn’t happen until December 1992, who exactly took Alex? Did Ben take her, while he was still a member of Dharma? It seems more likely that the Others took her and Ben raised her once he joined them. But if so, he didn’t become her “father” until she was almost 4 years old. Which is still possible, but I would still like some clarification on the show about what exactly took place.
Are deleted scenes considered canon? In a deleted scene from (I think) The Man Behind the Curtain, when Ben is leading John to the Cabin for the first time, John makes a remark about Ben kidnapping Alex, and Ben says “I didn’t take her – I’m just the one who raised her.” Of course, Ben may, uh, stretch the truth a bit from time to time…and deleted scenes may not be canonical. But I am VERY interested in the real story behind this as well!
I missed that deleted scene, I’ll have to go back and check it out!
here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22jw9nl9jHk
Deleted scenes aren’t canon…except to the writers. I’ve heard them say, several times, that if it didn’t happen on TV then it’s not canon. But then there’s the ARG and the numbers.:)
Actual quote is: “I didn’t ‘kidnap’ her, I’m just the one who raised her.” Maybe that’s a slightly different flavor.
I believe the incident is what happened when Dharma turned the Donkey Wheel. We know they found it, and obviously a polar bear has been used to turn it since there was a Dharma collar on the one Charollette found. It was an experiment before a person tried turning it, but that is when the incident happened. Besides time skips or other phenomena that might have happened, I am sure that “the incident” caused the Jughead to begin exploding hence the 108 minute protocol to release the pressure stopping the explosion. A bomb like Jughead could be used to power the swan if the reaction never went far enough to cause fusion. The failsafe must have been explosives set to stop that reaction from happening. The question Daniel asked Ellie is a clue. He asked if they had access to concrete and lead. Concrete they had obviously because they buried the bomb where the Swan would later be located. The reason Dharma built the Swan there is because the bomb’s leak could not be fixed(no lead), when they buried Jughead it continued to leak and caused a tear in space/time. That tear is the reason for the strong electromagnetic field Dharma discovered. They would have been the ones that would have built the failsafe and the blast doors. The Others would not have seen the need since the Traveller form the future did not indicate to do so. I also believe that is why the Swan is so far away from where the Others reside. Desmond sealed the rift in space/time with the failsafe explosion it caused an implosion making the hole close on itself.
Everyone I tell this theory mocks me but I know this is what the writers have in store for this story. The clues are all there.
The only thing that doesnt add up with the Swan housing the bomb is the fact that when the Swan imploded, the bomb would’ve disappeared. There was obviously no nuclear-sized explosion, so where did the bomb go?
I would say it decayed ’til the point that it was no longer massively destructive. In season two (I think it was in “Everybody Hates Hugo”), when Sayid and Jack are exploring under the Swan, there’s a noise (like a pressure cooker relieving vapor) that leads Jack to the shower where Kate is. I personally don’t think that kind of a noise was placed just so we could follow the scene and see Evangeline Lilly in a towel… (not that I didn’t love it, though). My take is that the noise was in the very same moment someone keyed in the numbers so the counter was reset, relieving pressure from Jughead. What do you think?
“…when they buried Jughead it continued to leak and caused a tear in space/time.”
I’m no nuclear physicist, but since when do leaky H-Bombs cause rips in the space-time continuum?
When they are located on a mysterious island next to vast amounts of highly powerful electomagnetic energy that can be harnessed to travel through time and space. lol
I agre with imfromthe past, however…touche! lol
Isn’t uranium, the stuff in the bomb, decaying material? Electrons going kaput? Isn’t that what radioactivity is?
IF the mysterious energy material is the/a source for matter-making (an impossibility according to Einstein, I think) material/carbon, then it might be a bad thing if it was mixing or in too close proximity to its exact polar opposite.
Think positive matter mixing with negative matter (okay, that’s from Fantastic Four, Marvel comics from about forty years ago) -
It go BIGBADDABOMB…
The end of all things.
Just a thought.
These are all probably going to be answered by the end of the series, but I hate when people expect every little detail about Lost to be explained. There needs to be some lingering mysteries that will haunt all of us forever, and never let us forget the show. The show is constantly adding new questions and dropping clues, it’s only right that by the end of the show, they leave a few spots open for the fans to fill in the blanks. I love Lost, because even when they tell you that Smokey is a security system, you still don’t know what it is.
Amen, FutureMe!
Any great story leaves some things to the imagination.
Sorry dude, but no dice. While I’m all for a little imagination freestyle, if you show me a giant foot with four toes or a cloud of smoke that drags people underground, I’m going to expect some answers.
Pstotch, you would probably really like this recap. The author goes through everything we actually know about Smokey to date. http://www.hobotrashcan.com/features/down-the-hatch/
There are some great screencaps from TPID showing Smokey looking distinctly dog-like out there as well.
http://sl-lost.iimmgg.com/image/b261bbdf1a0a43db7340b45a46c0f9db
http://sl-lost.iimmgg.com/image/5ecc8cb455364540d9fcdd0603a0f2d5
http://sl-lost.iimmgg.com/image/35b21aa2aa893f0e5ac94bd4f24f53b9
Both the review and those screencaps certainly give some new support to the Cerberus/Smokey connections. And I like your idea that there is more than one “Smokey”, which also fits because Cerberus had three heads. Of course Smokey could have at least three different manifestations or functions. Nice observation you made there!
as for #7: My new theory behind adam and eve is Charles Widmore and Eloise Hawking .. i mean they know most about the island(or so it seems) and it only seems fair that the people doing whatever they can to find their way back enjoy it as their final resting place .. however i do like the idea of jack laying someone he knows to rest as part of the dramatic affect of the show
#5: desmond may be “special” for the amount of radiation he was exposed to .. which is why he and daniel can move freely
Does anyone know if they are taking a week break in between the episdoes “the life and death of Jeremy Bentham? and “LeFleur” and if so why?!?!
According to the latest ABC press releases, “The Death of Jeremy Bentham” is Feb. 25 and “LeFleur” is the next week, March 4.
Those are the latest press releases (released Friday, Feb. 13).
I have been under the impression that this season is running straight through with a new episode each Wednesday into May.
Yes- no breaks.
thanks celticfan i have just been curious cuz i have been hearing different things. I hope to jabob your right.
One of the mysteries that has always puzzled me has to do with Christian Sheppard.This goes all the way back to before we see him popping up on and off island, that is other than White Rabbit(?) when Jack starts seeing him on the island and follows (I always viewd this as more of a vision that Jack’s stressed out mind created out of neccesity leading him to the caves and a fresh water source). Where is his body, and why did Jack not seem to flinch when he found the empty casket? Was this answered or adressed at some point? You’d think that there would be some sort of search remembering the scene Jack made at the airport when they told him they could not allow the casket on the plane. Why would he let it go so easily? Did I miss something?
I know that we have seen C.S. pop up since then, but I have never viewed it as his reanimated body. I don’t know, maybe if we see Locke stand up and start walking around again, I’ll have my answer. But still, why no search, why no questions? ( again, I may have missed something ). I’ve wondered if there ever was a body and if no, maybe Jack knew?
I know this doesn’t seem like a big mystery, but for some reason, it has always bothered me. Thoughts?
I agree with wanting to know about that mystery. That is, in part, what I hope goes to show that Darlton had an idea of what they were doing in Season One.
I believe that Locke, when he returns to the island, will come to life in a way like Christian Shepard did. I believe it will be a raising — more than a reincarnation. But that anagram on the van has made me second guess that.
Maybe Locke — like Christian did — will rise again but also will experience some sort of reincarnation of who he is. He will lose his fear and be able to be who he is supposed to be. Christian is not the same man on the island that he was off it. He is at his potential. Back stories have dealt with how both Locke and Christian are afraid.
So I am with you, dolce. I want to figure out Christian’s after-crash story. I think we might figure it out through Locke’s post-return story.
I’ve been wondering about the similarities between Christian and Locke’s circumstances.
Does this mean Jack’s dad at one time turned the wheel?
Was Jack born on the island, too?
Flashbacks of Christian show him self-destructing much like Jack did upon his return from Island.
Will the shortened series force us to miss meaningful flashbackstories on Christian, Widmor, Daniel – and Hawking?
I don’t think the amount of episodes left will affect what back stories we will see and what we will not. This season the show has not focused on specific backstories.
In the last episode we found out, among other things, how Rousseau’s team got the “sickness,” how she did not get the sickness, where (possibly) Smokey resides, what happens if you get pulled into one of his holes, how Locke (probably) left the island, that he was supposed to move it in the first place, that Charlotte grew up on the island (albeit it was writing cop-out), and it was confirmed that Mrs. Hawking is Faraday’s mother.
That was a lot (I am sure I missed something). And I suspect we will get more of that. Briefer glimpses at more. Or also that there are a lot of similarities. And it could be that by showing how Locke rises, we will learn how Christian came to be who/what he is today.
Although I would love to see a Christian-centric episode that shows how he came to learn/realize what role he was playing on the island. Was it right away? Or did he have to learn his path?
I read that the “Science” team were supposed to get individual episodes in season 4 instead of 1 shared episode. I am sure we would have gotten much more out of Charollette if not for the writer’s strike.
The interview with Rebecca Mader said she was only supposed to be around for 3-4 episodes or something like that. But due to the strike, they actually gave her less screen time each episode than she was slated for, and her story got dragged into season five.
Ok, I guess it was 8 episodes, not 3-4. But here’s the exact quote:
“How did the producers break it to you that Charlotte was going to die?
I’ve known since June of ’08, because that’s when we negotiate contracts between seasons. Originally when I started on the show in August 2007, I was only supposed to do eight episodes. I ended up doing 20. I was on the show a lot longer than I thought I was going to be. A lot of it has to do with the writers strike. Less episodes in Season 4 meant back stories were compromised for the new people. I think that’s why my character carried into Season 5.”
I dunno, maybe they were laying the groundwork for this to be an eventual plot line. Wether it be reincarnation or rebirth in an other-worldly form. Maybe I am about to get the answer to that question finally. But it does come down to that little mystery that I have always wondered about- where was the body, and why was a bigger deal never made out of it?
If it was a setup for the grander scheme of things ( the rules of the island ), and I fully believe that they have always known where they were going with the island mythology, it still bothers me that there was not a bigger deal made over the lack of body in/around/near the casket. I don’t even think that Jack ever mentioned that he found his father’s casket and it was empty ( did he? ). Maybe I am going against my own advice about this show and over-thinking it. Shame on me.
My interpretation is that when Jack saw the empty casket (which was still latched), he assumed that Oceanic had put the casket on board but taken the body out. He was upset because he still couldn’t bury his father and be done with it, so he freaked out and smashed up the box. I’d hardly call that not flinching.
I guess what I meant by not flinching was that it wasn’t a reaction that I would expect. You are right though- there was definitly a reaction, but stil you’d think there might be a verbal rant to or in front of someone that the airline pulled one over on him and left the boy out og the casket. It’s still always bothered me. But, like I said (and others above ), maybe everything will be cleared up when Locke’s body is returned to the island.
I’ve been telling people that I think that Adam & Eve are Rose & Bernard. It would certainly make sense. All they have to do is die in one of the skips and it all set up.
http://ncjl.wordpress.com/current-theories/rose-and-bernard-are-adam-and-eve/
- izi
Oh, god, I hope not.
I’m hoping for Penny and Des – by far the best couple on the show.
I’ve had an idea for a while now that the Incident is something that couldn’t have been figured out when we first heard of it. Something to do with time travel. Lately I’ve been thinking it was Ben turning the Frozen Donkey Wheel, and one or more of the time-traveling Losties, probably Daniel, told someone about it in Dharma’s day or earlier. But after going back and watching the Swan orientation film, where Chang says there was a clear event that happened shortly after the construction of the station, I think it might just be Daniel’s visit itself that made the DI implement the new protocol. He could have told them about the events of the future, and apparently Chang is convinced by his story, as we see in the Comic Con video. His appearance out of nowhere and disappearance would lend credibility to his story. Also in the spliced video from the Arrow says that using the computer for any purpose other than using the numbers is forbidden, especially talking to the outside world. This kind of thing could lead to another Incident, Chang warns. I used to think that meant if you chat on the computer you don’t hit the button and there’s a meltdown. Now I think it means if you chat on the computer you get visitors. Sometimes visitors from the future.
#7 Jack found a white rock and a black rock with the skeletons. I’ll assume he continues to possess the rocks.
… or whoever possesses them becomes one of the skeletons.
#4: Has anyone ever considered the possibility that the statue wasn’t built in the ancient past at all? Maybe people in the distant future build statues, too. I’m not saying it’s likely, but when you look at the four toes…well, I’m no evolutionologist, but I know that they say humans are in the process of losing their pinky toes as they evolve. I’m just sayin’.
I guess it’s a good thought. But we have to consider that Sayid, Jin, and Sun first saw the statue in 2004. So in order for this to work, whoever built it in the future would have to find some way for it to be transported back in time.
Maybe future people built it, the island started skipping, one of them grabbed onto the statue for balance, and it moved with them. Like the compass, the raft, etc.
That would be awesome.
Maybe someone has explained this before and I missed it, but what I want to know is if the island was hidden and the others are not associated with Dharma, who else knew where the island was to make the Dharma food drops? Seems they have been steadily going on at least since Desmond got to the island. Obviously someone out there knows where the hidden island is/was.
For my off the wall theory of the day, Jacob = Locke.
The incident can’t be the purge. The purge happened in December 1992, while the incident must have happened around 1980, before the Swan orientation film was made. Also, Faraday going back in time to found the ancient island civilization is NOT a paradox in any sense. The whole premise of time travel on Lost is that all of these events already happened: Locke really did appear in 1954, Jin really did meet Rousseau, etc. The events hadn’t yet happened in the time travelers lives, but they already happened in the “real world”. Desmond is the only one who is able to retroactively change history. The only evidence against this hypothesis so far is that Rousseau didn’t recognize Jin, which is easily explained by the fact that she’s nuts.
or that she hadn’t seen him in 16 years, and when she finally does see him is only for like… ten seconds… and in a completely different situation