Comments on: Lost Deconstruction – The Faith and Doubt of Jeremy Bentham

By: angjen0816

angjen0816 — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:41:31 +0000

widmore shot himself in the foot by sending Des to her, considering thats where Ben was, and Ben has sworen to kill Penny

By: Mrs. Alpert

Mrs. Alpert — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:21:55 +0000

^she knew both Charles and Ben… remember, she was on the island with Charles (Jughead) and I’m sure that proof of her knowing Ben is coming in an episode soon (she didn’t look surprised to see him or like she didn’t know him…).

time is the problem, as you say… I think the key is in knowing the total amount of time the O6 spent on the mainland cause Locke’s time = O6 – 3 years…

By: k

Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:49:15 +0000

even more interesting after watching that last scene- lost keeps toying with crazy time- we assume that after locke saw jack he killed himself the same night- great eagles everyone else because ben does not suggest that it was the same day just that jack booked a ticket tonight- but WHEN tonight!!!?? also eloise hawking- WHEN did she know ben!!!??? WHEN we first see ben and eloise hawking interact- of course it is as if they have known each other for ages- but after watching that last scene like others have picked up- ben had the knowledge to go meet eloise and tell her he is the one that needs to get back….further if both ben and widmore know eloise would she ot be suspect- has she met either of these two men & if she knew their personalities why help them…the key as eveyone mentions is WHEN!!!! WHEN has everything taken place…

By: joe_blow

joe_blow — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:43:22 +0000

VERY INTERESTING’

what a great analysis. i really appreciate all your ideas. thanks for sharing.

By: ftball221

ftball221 — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:09:52 +0000

So he was dumping her body in a crowded marina in broad day light? Doesn’t add up. Good thought though.

By: Charlie's Ghost

Charlie's Ghost — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:21:19 +0000

we really don’t know how much time passed between the Des/Widmore confrontation and the Des/Lampost confrontation. In all reality, enough time could have passed for them to sail there. No dates were given, so its possible.

By: brent

brent — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:30:41 +0000

I think Ben killed Locke to prevent him from talking to Hawking. Because Hawking knows Widmore and Ben better than anyone I believe, on Island and off, she may be able to convince Locke who’s telling the truth. Ben’s just protecting his own hide, just like he’s always done.

By: lockeheart

lockeheart — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:03:27 +0000

This doesnt really have anything to do with the topic but i just had this theory and i had to post it somewhere. Ben did not kill penny! The consesus is that he did because ben was seen at the marina, but what i think everyone is forgetting is how des, pen, and char got the LA in the first place. Remember they were in oxford no more a week or two before the events of 316. There is no way they sailed accross the atlantic and to LA in that time period (i dont thik it would be possible if they wanted to). Hence they parked in we britian and booked a plane. Now, it is possible penny has another boat (shes loaded) or her father has a boat, but that has never been shown to us and i doubt they would be using her fathers boat. Why was been by the mariana then? Crazy theory!! He was caught my widmores men while dumping the body of eloise hawking! Ben was done with her and if she stayed alive she could have also helped widmore find the island, so she had to go.

By: ImOnlySleeping

ImOnlySleeping — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:02:35 +0000

He might have been aware that Locke would be resurrected if returned to the island. And having the chip he needed to bring in Sun, realized that the way to break Jack was to have John kill himself, which might have been a hard sell after just convincing Locke not to. I believe he was sincere as he left the room. I suspect we’ll find out more about that in the near future.

By: Mrs. Alpert

Mrs. Alpert — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:34:50 +0000

John knew he needed to die, so I don’t think doubt overcame him, but the inevitability of what Richard had told him (and Christian)- that he would need to sacrifice himself to get the others back to the island…

I was upset that Ben was not who I thought he was… but looking back, he has always been in it for himself. He wants to get back to the island to control things again… so he used John. Eloise must’ve left the island with Charles.. so she wasn’t on Ben’s side…

By: 316'er

316'er — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:14:55 +0000

“Then, John blurts out the one piece of information that Ben did not have, a name that knows the way back to the island. Locke was no longer needed. He was no longer important to Ben.”

I really do not believe that. Ben knew all the time that he’ll have to fake a suicidal scenario. Ben was there to give Locke’s faith back. Without faith, there’s no way back to the island.

By: Zonker

Zonker — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:46:39 +0000

I thought I noticed Ben’s attitude turn once Locke mentioned that Jin was still alive. Watch the episode again and you’ll see Ben do a double-take once Jin’s name is mentioned. From that moment onward, he is positioning Locke towards his doom. He waits just long enough for Hawking’s name to be dropped, but Locke’s fate is determined from the moment he gives up the knowledge that Jin is alive.

So why would that be? Did Ben meet Jin on the island during the Dharma days? Does the fact that Jin survived mean that the timeline Ben has been fighting for has in fact been preserved, despite his fear that Alex’s death meant that Widmore had been able to change the rules?

By: hyperRevue

hyperRevue — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:12:36 +0000

I just can’t believe that Ben didn’t know of Hawking until Locke told him. They seemed to be pretty chummy when they were in the Lamp Post.

By: imfromthepast

imfromthepast — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:11:25 +0000

Meh, Ben killed Locke because he learned about Hawking and didn’t need him anymore, and Judas was just a dirty thief.

By: ErasedSlate

ErasedSlate — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:59:51 +0000

Since Lost brought up the topic of disciples, it could be argued that Ben is more like Judas. There is a school of thought that Judas was attempting to manipulate circumstances to force Jesus to lead a revolution against Rome. Therefore, his betrayal was based on a belief that Jesus would lead an uprising and establish a kingdom on earth. However, Judas’ scheming could not frustrate the plans of God.