Comments on: Stalls, Crashes, Cheating — All For Free!

By: bluboru

bluboru — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:42:19 +0000

http://www.dharmawantsyou.com/site/?utid=228449964672556253338372395341#/qp this is my multiple choice test as part of the new DWY create your own test

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:19:27 +0000

So the new test is up…anyone actually play this “game” or just complain about it? Or just complain about people complaining about it, for that matter?

By: ITS FREE

ITS FREE — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:38:25 +0000

“However…. and here is the ironic part… you are complaining about a free blog. You are slamming and trashing Doc, whose services provided to you are free, harder than he ever slammed or trashed the ARG. So in effect, you are proving your own point wrong. If we shouldn’t complain about free things, then shut up. However, since you did, I will…”

/\ No. The difference is, JaLocke, we aren’t coming onto DocArzt forum and complaining about HIS free forum are we? No, we aren’t. So that entire argument is invalid.

By: forgiventhewarlord

forgiventhewarlord — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:57:28 +0000

CLAYB83-
I can’t help but accuse you of not reading my posts because you continuously accuse me of saying things that are nowhere in my posts.

And you said: “However, that doesn’t devalue anything that has been posted on the other side of the argument.” and you’re absolutely correct. That’s why I haven’t said ANYTHING that infers that the ARG isn’t jacked up. My only point is and always has been that the “It’s Free” people shouldn’t be picked on… but if you need to build a “sychophantic fanboy” straw man to make yourself feel better then have a party.

By: clayb83

clayb83 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:33:41 +0000

Please stop telling me that I’m not reading the posts, that’s the a lame excuse. And stop hiding behind this argument that your just pointing out the legitimacy of other posters comments. You want to defend the ARG, just admit it.

My previous post wasn’t directed at anyone but you. The “it’s free” crowd commenting here, I get it, they are indeed confronting the posters that they disagree with. However, that doesn’t devalue anything that has been posted on the other side of the argument.

Your “agrument” that the “it’s free” people are doing something more worthwhile is not only more ludicrous than the “it’s free” agrument itself, it’s completely esoteric.

Your willingness to continue this back and forth with me demonstrates that you’re a sychophantic fanboy that doesn’t want anything within the “LOST” bubble to be messed with or you’re more interested in creating these pathetic little internet squabbles because they provide you with some weird sense of empowerment.

Now, that I remember your handle from the Fuselage I’m leaning more toward sychophant. I’m done with your “argument about the argument.” It’s stupid and cyclical and I wont be rewarding your behavior any further.

By: papatimmy

papatimmy — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:20:27 +0000

[Insert bong gurgeling sound here.]
….waaaait. whu? ..sorry I was [Insert more bong gurgeling sound here.]um, distracted. um.. I think, shoot, I forgot man…
[Insert even more bong gurgeling sound here.]

By: forgiventhewarlord

forgiventhewarlord — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:05:42 +0000

CLAYB83-
That’s your second consecutive post where you demonstrate that you’re not reading the posts that you’re replying to. You said: “I don’t care if other people disagree with it. What I find completely assinine is you playing the role of hall monitor telling people where they should post.”

My point (as it has been since the beginning) is that if you want to whine about the ARG, then whine. It’s your inalienable right. But, if someone takes issue with your whining then they have the right to whine to you about it. And it’s fully appropriate because they’re addressing you Directly as opposed to posting about it somewhere else in cyberspace hoping that you read about it.

By: clayb83

clayb83 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:50:17 +0000

Warlord
I’ve already complained “where it will do the most good.” A bunch. In fact I’ve complained in every possible complaint venue I can. I commented on this particular entry by Doc because it jibed with my opinion of the ARG.
Occasionally I like to commiserate. It’s carthatic. That’s all.

At least a I had a point to posting here in the first place. This is a blog about Lost. I liked the entry so I agreed with it. I don’t care if other people disagree with it. What I find completely assinine is you playing the role of hall monitor telling people where they should post. It’s a frakkin’ blog about Lost. I’m not raining on anyone’s parade by agreeing with an entry about how much the ARG sucks.

One could say that your mere presence in this thread is preventing my catharsis, but you’re not. You’ve only reinvigorated my disdain for this ARG. So I owe a debt of gratitude.

By: ForgivenTheWarlord

ForgivenTheWarlord — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:08:11 +0000

CLAYB83-

All that you’ve proven in your post is that you don’t read the posts that you reply to. If you had you’d know:
1. I’ve never said that Hoodlum might not pay some attention to this website… I’ve said repeatedly that it would be More productive to contact them directly.
2. Doc was included in my comments, and
3. I’m not one of the “It’s Free” people. I’ve never told anyone not to complain, only to complain where it will do the most good.

So your entire last post was meaningless. Thanks for posting it though.

By: clayb83

clayb83 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:12:47 +0000

Warlord
“My statement was the truth.” This is where you’re reality and mine seem to part ways. Again, if you think Hoodlum isn’t paying attention to this website and about a half a dozen others… well you’re entitled to an opinion and I’m entitled to mine. Unfortunately, unlike you, I have no ironclad copyright to the “truth.”
I’d also to like to remind you that we are having this discussion in a thread titled, “Stalls, Crashes, Cheating–All For Free!” Which is on a website where the main author/owner has expressed his own displeasure with the ARG many times. Yet you are under the impression that by me chiming in with a similar sentiment I am somehow “annoying” you and infringing on your “right” to enjoy the game.
And if my comments (and others) are simply a waste of time, doesn’t that make Doc’s whole take on the ARG business “pointless,” as well.
Yet you keep coming back, to defend you argument. After I’m done posting this comment I will have made my frustation clear on multiple Lost Blogs and podcasts (some specifically made for the purpose of the ARG), sent Hoodlum 3 emails, posted their contact info on the aforementioned blogs and left a voice message at their U.S. office.
I have done something productive, while you have merely expressed your “annoyance,” with people you have do not have to read, listen or talk to … literally.
I wish you well on your mission to thwart those people that are preventing you from enjoying the ARG.

By: joeblow

joeblow — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:37:53 +0000

the first one was ok… until it became clear that none of it would have any impact on the show. we learned that dharma were scientists. we could have guessed that!!

By: dragossh

dragossh — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:02:07 +0000

Okay joeblow, so would we have an ARG without us watching LOST? Would we have LOST in the first place?

I’ll stop arguing with you because you obviously don’t understand a thing I’m saying. And since you think the ARGs are shit and useless, why do you keep commenting on this post?

And please don’t tell me that the DHARMA backstory from TLE was useless. Thanks to it I know what the numbers are, why was the DHARMA Initiative founded, what they were trying to do on the island, I saw a couple of orientation movies and I learnt more about the Hanso Foundation.

By: forgiventhewarlord

forgiventhewarlord — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:15:24 +0000

CLAYB83-
My statement was the truth. If you take an issue with them, it’s more worthwhile to take it up with THEM than with people not related to them. Not sure what’s confusing you about that, but if you need to label it “idiotic” because you can’t grasp it, then have at it.

As for your questions about Hoodlum… why not actually try to find that info out? In a time where customer complaints and campaigns bring dead t shows back to life and keep crappy shows on for far longer than they should be, it makes the most sense to complain to Hoodlum because you have a chance to make what you see as crappy into something that you may deem worthwhile. Posting HERE about it does nothing, writing them has a chance to actually make a difference, so which will you do?

DRAGOSSH-
Don’t feed the trolls. )

By: joeblow

joeblow — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:14:35 +0000

sorry to keep posting, but i have more to say… speaking of how “we fans pay for the ARG by sitting through commercials, so they’d better treat us right” …. the most prestigious advertising audience in the world, the upper-middle class males 18-35 all watch the show with tivo and fast forward through the commercials.
so, if you have ever fast forwarded through a commercial you have STOLEN FOOD FROM AN ABC EXECUTIVE’S BABY’S MOUTH and this piss poor ARG is your punishment for it.

By: joeblow

joeblow — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:10:24 +0000

and what do you mean WE give them the money for this?? are you nuts??? when was the last time you wrote a check to ABC to thank them for the quality programming??? only a small handful of viewers play the ARG and if, by some impossible twist of fate, the ARG players grew so frustrated with the ARG that they STOPPED WATCHING LOST ALTOGETHER (which by the way would never happen ever ever ever and you know it) lost would carry on as usual with less than a million fewer viewers which wouldnt effect the show or advertising revenue or anything at all. the ARG is good for a little cheap publicity when the game launches and thats it.
you could maybe argue that our dvd purchases pay for the ARG, but the amount of money they make on dvd sales is negligible compared to advertising revenue, which the 10 million casual viewers make possible, not the 2-3 million supernerds who would watch the show no matter what.