I have heard people talk about the Mayan Calendar being accurate on other things, so they think this will be accurate as well. Who knows what will happen in the year of 2012 on December 21st. No one can predict the future. Sure, we can theorize and mak…

Whether or not an alignment happens on 12/21/12, is in many ways irrelevant to the changes that many are saying may occur on this date. While these people may not have official anthropology or astronomy degrees, they have spent years researching Mayan culture.

One such researcher, Ian Zel Lungold impressed me with his observations http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=secrets+of+the+mayan+calendar&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#

Surely, he is not up to your scientific qualifications, but that is not the point of my columns. They are about mythology and spirituality. This is the realm of collective consciousness, shamans, storytelling, and gut instinct. It is this place from which scientific proof may eventually be had, but only by those who take a leap of faith in searching for it.

I’m not sure what part of my “cultural ascension” you took issue with. My point was that cultures often adopt practices of the peoples they conquer.
I’m not basing that one statement on the evolution of culture. Culture evolves for many reasons. I was simply responding to a comment on a blog. If it is hard evidence and accepted sources you are looking for, I’m afraid you will never find much satisfaction in my columns. I seek to be the voice asking “what if” before the research is done.

Science is currently very limiting in explaining the world we live in and has only recently begun to uncover what spiritual philosophy has claimed for thousands of years. One day, science and spirituality may agree on how the universe works. Until then, if it gives you comfort to only see the world by what can be tested and understood, by all means do that. I prefer to look at the world with wonder.

I guess I’m just the John Locke to your Jack Shephard. All I can say is I “wish you believed,” but if not, that’s your right.

Namaste

For anyone on the Internet who stumbles upon this discussion, here is an important link.
http://the2012deception.net/

Namaste.

The last statement, and the contention of the article, shows that you are not on the ‘side’ of the Mayans, since you have allied yourself with people who are willingly coopting their ancient culture to make points in the here and now that they themselves have not, nor ever, made in any of their own writings. Saying that there is mere ‘disagreement’ about the ‘details’ of the astronomical events that Meesus described is akin to saying that there’s no scientific consensus on climate change.

The Mayans did not predict the New Age event that people are groping towards right now. There are no credible Mayan historians, cultural scholars, or even indigenous Guatemalans, who claim as such.

In addition, the line of cultural ascension you’ve described is, at best, mythic and quite a shallow way to consider the evolution of culture.

In addition, ‘Zeitgeist’ is about as credible as ‘What the BLEEP Do We Know?’ in terms of contribution to the sum of human knowledge and endeavor.

Namaste.

Thanks for the link, UM.

I’m no astronomer, but I’ve seen and read in many, many places that due to the precession of the equinoxes (the drifting of the equinoxes due to earth’s wobble for those who don’t know) it takes 25,800 years for the celestial map as seen from earth to make a complete cycle to its starting point.

The link you posted said that in 1998 the center of the sun aligned with the galactic equator. What I believe is being referenced for 2012 is the exact center of that equator. In that same link, it says that: “it will take the December solstice sun 36 years to precess through the galactic equator.” So the center point should occur in the middle of that range. So if the edge of the sun (as opposed to its center) first touched the galactic equator in, say, 1994 (4 years before its center touched in 1998), then in 18 years (midpoint of 36) it will be at the center in 2012.

The point here is that regardless of what date you see as the official alignment, no one is doubting that it takes the earth 25,800 years to make a complete rotation to its exact starting point. So any time now is really an amazing point in history–as can be seen by what’s going on.

One article I read that I found very interesting was this one: http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/maya.htm

As for co-opting the cultures of other peoples, not only do we and the Romans share this tendency–every culture does this. In fact, it is the entire basis of mythology. Primitive beliefs led to the Egyptian religious beliefs, which led to the Greek beliefs, then the Romans, and all that forms the basis of much of our religion today. Check out zeitgeist the movie (part 1) for more on this: (in google videos look up zeitgeist the movie and watch the original, older version)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention though. I was not aware that there was any contention about the alignment date. I would not go so far as to say it isn’t true however, just that there is disagreement about the details. Since the Mayans seemed to know their stuff, I’m siding with them.

Namaste.

I’m no astronomer, but I’ve seen and read in many, many places that due to the precession of the equinoxes (the drifting of the equinoxes due to earth’s wobble for those who don’t know) it takes 25,800 years for the celestial map as seen from earth to make a complete cycle to its starting point.

The link you posted said that in 1998 the center of the sun aligned with the galactic equator. What I believe is being referenced for 2012 is the exact center of that equator. In that same link, it says that: “it will take the December solstice sun 36 years to precess through the galactic equator.” So the center point should occur in the middle of that range. So if the edge of the sun (as opposed to its center) first touched the galactic equator in, say, 1994 (4 years before its center touched in 1998), then in 18 years (midpoint of 36) it will be at the center in 2012.

The point here is that regardless of what date you see as the official alignment, no one is doubting that it takes the earth 25,800 years to make a complete rotation to its exact starting point. So any time now is really an amazing point in history–as can be seen by what’s going on.

One article I read that I found very interesting was this one: http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/maya.htm

As for co-opting the cultures of other peoples, not only do we and the Romans share this tendency–every culture does this. In fact, it is the entire basis of mythology. Primitive beliefs led to the Egyptian religious beliefs, which led to the Greek beliefs, then the Romans, and all that forms the basis of much of our religion today. Check out zeitgeist the movie (part 1) for more on this: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=zeitgeist+the+movie&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#

Thanks for bringing this to my attention though. I was not aware that there was any contention about the alignment date. I would not go so far as to say it isn’t true however, just that there is disagreement about the details. Since the Mayans seemed to know their stuff, I’m siding with them.

Namaste.

The end of the world already happened and no one noticed!!!

hhahahahhahhahahahhahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

“On that day, the winter solstice sun will line up with the center of the Milky Way galaxy (as seen from the perspective of the Earth) for the first time in nearly 26,000 years.”

This is not true. According to the calculations of the Belgian astronomer Jean Meesus, this alignment occurred in 1998, as published in his book “Mathematical Astronomy Morsels.” Most astrophysicists concur with his calculation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Alignment

The idea that the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar predicts any such event is due mostly to pop culture speculation, and (in my opinion) the general tendency for Westerners of all stripes to co-opt the cultures of other people in order to create a new symbolic meaning. It’s a tradition we share with the old Roman empire.

Namaste.

I just can’t get over how you collectivists preach “destiny” for individuals and then tack over to non-idividuality

Save the world – WE ARE THE ONES – my ass!

Control freak communism, is what you’re talking about, and instead of saving the world you are talking about destroying the human race.

Bunch of idiots. I don’t like to be mean or cruel, but sometimes you just have to call someone a knucklehead.

In other words, if you kept meeting your future husband, it might not mean that he is your true love, but the person you need to spend the most time with to take you where you ultimately want to go. Granted, true love can come from that. I sometimes think that love at first site isn’t love at all, but simply recognizing someone from your own future.

When you met your future hubby the first time, you might not have been ready for him then, and it might not have worked out. If this happened, but you grew in that time, you’d then meet a proxy to fulfill his position, or get back together with him. Both of you are meant to help each other grow to where you both want to ultimately go.

I talk more about that in the Lost in Myth column on proxies from last week. For more on Fate vs Freedom of Choice, that was from several weeks ago. Here’s the link if you’re interested:
http://www.docarzt.com/lost/marc-oromaners-lost-in-myth-lost-on-fate-versus-freedom-of-choice/

Thanks for sharing!

“And my only intention, for all my racing, was to stay in the same place.”~ Issac Asimov “The Red Queen’s Race”

However, when I woke up with that song, I realized how uncanny it was that it fit into the destiny theme, and thought it would be a good opportunity to bring up 2012. Admittedly, LOST was really secondary in this post, but I like to go with the flow when I can. I usually do my best to split spirituality/myth and LOST 50-50 in my posts. In this one, it favored more mythology. Perhaps next week it’ll be more LOST. The universe likes to course correct.

As for, “we are the ones we have been waiting for,” I love that and reference it in my presentations. In fact, you can hear me quickly mention it in this highlight video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hykqa83OJJ0

I reference it at 9:39 (right at the end)

“Challenge yourself to grow, then life will flow.”
Just as the body needs food to grow, the soul needs love to grow. Love is a basic need of life. That is the need of modern society. In reality, love is that, what sustains life. These are words spoken by Mata Amritanandamayi, an enlightened Master of the present time who is revered as embodiment of the Divine by her followers and known to the world as “the hugging saint”.

“What is going to happen on December 22, 2012—the day after the Mayan calendar abruptly ends? [...] If only we could be like the Maya, and know our destinies from the moment we were born.”

The destiny of our current age is to preserve our planet and all the various species living on it. In reality, what truthfully means in the light of love (which is the essential source and energy of Paramatman, the Supreme Soul), we are born to learn that “otherhood” or differentness does not really exist. We are ONE kind, ONE planet, ONE life. It’s like in LOST: In truth, there are no “others” – we, the protagonists of our lifes, are born (again) to recognize the unity of life. The “Island” called Earth is the place where all families reunite, the place we all depend on. “The Others” a.k.a. “us” (actually a reference to the Secrets of Lost) are the ones, chosen to protect this place. WE ARE THE ONES, we have been waiting for.

Global consciousness is evolving. The transformation of the post-industrial western society and collective mind has already begun. 2012 will be one time-frame for a major shift, a gate into the age of integral, post-rational, global culture. At least 20% of the people will be able to gain the stage of integral consciousness. Especially the new born children of our time. It’s gonna be a planet of Nonduality.

http://watchloststreaming.com/season-5-episode-11-whatever-happened-happened/