Posted by Marc Oromaner on Thursday, April 15th, 2010 at 2:03 am - filed under Lost In Myth - (53) Comments
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In Lost’s “Everybody Loves Hugo,” Richard complains that Jacob “never tells us what to do.” Richard’s frustration echoes clearly into our world. For most of us, Jacob, aka God, never seems to tell us what to do. He just sits back and lets us make our own mistakes, leading to countless horrors and suffering. For many, this is a major argument as to why there is no God. Yet, when watching Lost, we see that Jacob does in fact tell the Losties what to do—sometimes directly, sometimes through his lists or clues, and sometimes through messages that he passes on through his emissaries. But certainly this doesn’t happen in our world. Here, there are no ghosts of Michaels past, otherworldly whispers, or visits from dimension-hopping Desmonds to guide us on our journey through life. Or…is there?

“Everybody Loves Hugo” was ultimately about soul mates and guardian angels. You might be scratching your head at this assertion, but if you go back and watch the episode with these themes in mind, I think you’ll see what I’m talking about. Libby asks Hugo if he believes in soul mates. Michael appears twice and “yells at” him to take charge. Desmond mysteriously appears to give Hugo advice, telling him to go with his gut. Hugo’s gut is bigger than most, so I think the metaphor is that his instincts should be more pronounced as well. These instincts allow him to hear messages others do not. Messages from spirits like Michael. But should he be listening?

In The Myth of Lost (on page 108 interestingly enough), I wrote, “in most mythology, ghosts and visions usually speak the truth.” I also wrote this:

Very rarely in myths do ghosts or presumably imaginary characters show up speaking anything but the truth—especially when they show up out of thin air and disappear as quickly. Like Hamlet’s father’s ghost, Cinderella’s fairy godmother, Scrooge’s former partner Jacob Marley, or Locke’s visions of Boone and Walt, these characters provide information that mortal characters can’t know. Such is most likely the case with [Hurley’s imaginary friend] Dave, but we’ll explore more about that later. For now, let’s just say that Hurley may end up being the key to solving the Lost mystery.

In case there was any room for doubt within the realm of Lost, Hurley basically spells out this truth when Miles incredulously asks why he just does what the ghosts tell him to do. “Dead people are more reliable than alive people,” he replies. Good on ya Hurley! Great, so ghosts, fairy godmothers and guardian angels in myths speak the truth. But how does any of this help us in our world and what does it have to do with soul mates?

Soul mates and guardian angels actually serve a common purpose in our lives: to help guide us on our paths. In this episode of Lost, the spirit of Michael is acting as Hurley’s guardian angel by telling him to take charge because people will listen to him. However, Hurley is not a take-charge kinda guy. Of course he’s not! In fact, this is how you can recognize the message of a guardian angel—it will always require you to do something that takes you out of your comfort zone. They never tell you do something easy, because then you wouldn’t need the otherworldly push to do it.

The messages of guardian angels come to us all the time in various forms but we usually don’t want to listen to them because they challenge us to do something we don’t want to do. In fact, that’s an understatement. They challenge us to do something we absolutely abhor doing because it’s interwoven directly into our deepest fears. How can Hurley, who is afraid to simply talk to a girl, take charge of a group and become a leader? The same way Jack learned to not be a leader who fixes everything, and instead, just listen. He does it by breaking his usual habits and challenging his typical nature. And yes, like Jack and Hurley, sometimes one person’s challenge is exactly the opposite of another person’s, but that’s only because the two personalities are opposite. Often these “inverse personalities” are in our lives for exactly this reason—for us to use their strengths to help overcome our weaknesses. But how do you know what you’re supposed to be changing?

You know what your challenge is because it will almost always be the thing you most hate to do. So if you are someone who never takes charge, your challenge is to take charge and speak up for yourself—whether to your boss, your enemies, or even your loved ones. However, if you are a bossy type, your challenge will be to listen to others and take their advice and accept that you may be wrong. This will be the hardest thing for you to do. If you are someone who is always giving, learn to receive. If you are always taking, learn to give. As Jerry told George in Seinfeld, “If every instinct you have is wrong, the opposite would have to be right.” Even though this truth was told in a humorous, Seinfeldian way, as with Lost, it’s a message for us.

Lost is certainly not the first TV show to contain hidden messages. It’s just the first to attempt to cover, well, nearly all of them. Our time may be running out. So Lost has come along to try and cram six thousand years worth of wisdom into six hearty seasons. As part of the very small group who not only watch the episodes but are interesting in learning what they are teaching us, it’s your job (even though you don’t feel like it) to spread this wisdom to the world through your blogs, podcasts, articles, YouTube videos, emails, Tweets, and whatever else you do to pass along info. But you are not alone in this. The universe is giving you help. You just have to know where to look.

You should look to the messages of our “guardian angels.” Just as with Jacob, these messages come through many different mediums and show up in various forms. It could be something a friend says, a resonating horoscope or article you read, or a TV program you watch or radio show or podcast you listen to. You might overhear a message from a complete stranger on the street, see it on a billboard, have a drunk shove you and accuse you of it, or a bum yell it at you—especially a “crazy” bum since they are often the most attuned to other realities but often overload when they cannot properly channel them (as we see nearly happening to Libby). So, should we listen to every single thing our horoscope or some crazy bum or drunk says? Of course not, for one thing, there’s simply too much of it.

So how do you separate the diamonds from the diatribes?  First, you have to separate the message from the medium. Ignore whatever judgment you have about the source, and just listen to the message. Then, ignore your ego. Quiet your ego voice that’s telling you to react and not to listen to this “idiot.” Once you quiet that loud, screaming, inner voice, you might hear your quiet whisper voice—your gut instinct or intuition. That’s the voice that’s much harder to hear, often because we don’t want to hear it. You can recognize it because its messages will challenge you to grow beyond your usual habits and patterns. These messages will dig into your sensitive spots—your fears—and when they strike that nerve, you will likely react with anger, sadness, superficial agreement, or avoidance, depending on your comfort zone.

You can actually witness this drama play out on just about any web message board or in the comments section of most columns. No one is immune to it. It’s human nature. The only question is how you react and to what degree. And because I just snuck that in, let me repeat it again to be clear: the interactions on the Internet are filled with guardian angel messages meant for us. They are being relayed through others—metaphorical spirits of Michael, Ana-Lucia, Walt, or Boone—all channeling (possibly in the form of yelling) messages we are meant to hear. Not all of these messages are for us, just the ones that resonate or strike a nerve.

While the Internet has made God’s job easier, it isn’t the main source for guardian angel messages. Many times, these messages are relayed directly from (flash-sideways) Desmonds or Libbys—our best friends or closest loved ones. These messages are reserved for the most difficult challenges. The ones that cannot be expected to be overcome with some random overheard comment, frivolous horoscope message, or enlightening website comment. They are meant to help us with something that will take an entire lifetime to work out. The ultimate channeler of these hard-core, über-challenge messages, is the soul mate.

Your soul mate is the one person on this earth brought here to help you deal with your deepest issue. This issue is so big, it requires work that will take a good part of your life to resolve. That’s why it takes someone who will be with you for a good part of your life to resolve it. Think of them as your personal psychologist—one who will either inspire you to grow, or drive you mad. In fact, your soul mate is usually the one person who has the potential to drive you the craziest. That’s why, as they sing in the Broadway play Avenue Q, “The More You [Love] Someone the More They Drive You Crazy.” You have been assigned to each other because the other person holds the key to unlocking the best version of you.

I sometimes wonder if “love at first sight” is actually love at all, but instead the recognition of your soul mates from your future. The love comes when that person challenges you to be a better version of yourself, and you then grow into that person. As Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, the author of The Little Prince wrote, “Perhaps love is the process of my leading you gently back to yourself.” True love connects on a soul level, transcending the illusion of time, which is why we can recognize it from our future or even from a dimension where our destiny was decided. So if there’s someone in your life who drives you crazy, instead of continually reacting in anger, thank them. Be grateful because they are giving you the opportunity to become the person you are destined to be.

Of course, not everyone reaches his or her destiny. Not everyone hears the barely audible message whispering under the loud clamor of ego. When the whispers show up, like the Losties, most people go on the defensive and ready their guns, or even fire them as the Ana Lucias of the world might do. It takes a Hugo to go with his gut and calmly walk to the source of the sound and listen, and even offer to help—even someone who may have caused us a lot of personal pain as Michael did by inadvertently killing Libby. Because of his modesty, Hugo has always been someone who could be a clear channel for guardian angels. Only, he had to gain confidence to believe it himself. It takes confidence because usually when these messages tell people what they need to hear they react—especially if it touches a nerve.

As American humorist Don Marquis wrote, “If you make people think they’re thinking, they’ll love you; but if you really make them think, they’ll hate you.” The reason is because the first makes people think they’re smart. The second makes them think they’re dumb, and therefore, must grow to understand or deal with something. Guardian angel messages really make us think. They make us take a look at ourselves, and when we don’t like what we see, it’s easier to blame the messenger than take responsibility to do something about it.

Early on in Season 2, we had a Hurley-centric episode titled, “Everybody Hates Hugo” when he was put in charge of the food supply. Everybody hates the messengers at first but as we grow we come to love them. They inspire us to become stronger, better people, and once we recognize who we are and who we were, only then can we really appreciate the wisdom that helped get us there. Hugo has become much closer to that person in Season 6, and that’s why we now have a title, “Everybody Loves Hugo.” I believe that Hugo has grown into this flash-sideways person because of what he went through on the island. I believe they are directly connected.

In this same episode, we see that Desmond has almost become a literal guardian angel by righting certain wrongs and bringing people together. One might wonder then, why try to kill a poor, defenseless, paraplegic John Locke? My first thought was that it was all due to a misunderstanding. Desmond thought that the Man In Black—the man who threw him down the well—was actually Locke, and perhaps he wanted to get revenge in the flash-sideways. But much like Jedi, guardian angels don’t seek revenge. So I was a bit confused about the message.  Until I began to put the pieces together. Locke was struck but not killed. He will likely now go to the hospital and be operated on by Jack. Jack, the surgeon who offered Locke hope about fixing his spine.

In “The Substitute” Locke came to accept that he’d never be able to walk again, albeit, more out of hopelessness than any true acceptance. Still, I think after all he’s been through, this might be enough for him to be rewarded with a functioning spine. Whether or not this was Desmond’s intention, we may never know, but it doesn’t really matter. The point is that sometimes when we aren’t proactive enough in our lives to do what we are meant to, the universe forces us to. Perhaps Locke needs a way to regain his faith in this flash-sideways world. That may mean regaining the use of his legs, or simply surviving a head-on car crash. It would be perfectly ironic and Lost-esque if Locke were to regain the use of his legs, but due to the accident have to get them amputated. In the end, he would at least be able to walk with prosthetic limbs. Okay, maybe I’m stretching it a bit here, but it is in line with the myth.

Getting back to Desmond, what was the deal with him and MIB on the island? He took his hand and walked innocently into the middle of the woods with him to a deep, dark well. The message is that there is a difference between living your destiny and living naively because you think everything will work out. Yes, Desmond is correct that he should just go with the flow, but what happens when there is a fork in the flow? What happens when there is a side-creek to the river you’re floating down? How do you know which way to go? Again, trust your instincts!

What was Desmond’s mistake? The boy. Remember, the island, aka the universe, offered him a choice. The man he is blindly following sees a boy who frightens him. When Desmond asks about the mysterious apparition, MIB yells that he should “ignore it!” The boy then smiles at Desmond and runs off. After having read this column, what do you now think was Desmond’s proper move? Think back to the wisdom of ghosts, apparitions, and other-worldly visions. Remember that they speak the truth. So, all Desmond had to do was to tell MIB to hold up a minute and follow the kid who would have surely told him to run away! Run away! But Desmond was under the impression that he had nowhere to run to. But once the boy showed up, he did have somewhere to run! He should’ve run after him, and then wouldn’t have been thrown down a well.

For those Desmond fans out there though, I say, don’t worry. And even if Desmond is dead I still say don’t worry. The writers know what they are doing. As I mentioned in last week’s “‘Lost In Myth: Where’s Your ‘Happily Ever After’?” Desmond is the messianic archetypal figure. Just like Jesus, Desmond has been left for dead in a stone tomb. In fact, he may already be dead or (coming attractions spoiler alert) be finished off by Sayid. Either way, give the guy three days and hallelujah, he will rise again! Desmond may die for the sins of those joining up with MIB, but as Widmore promises, his sacrifice will be for a greater good.

How might Desmond be revived? As I wrote in “Lost In Myth: Unwrapping ‘The Package,’” we’ve seen all this play out before. The Swan station was about to blow up the island and Desmond sacrificed himself by turning the failsafe key. Then he was reborn. Now, he’s been thrown down into a well. Why was that well dug? Because it is one of the energy points on the island—just like where the Swan was built. So, Desmond has gone down the well as his role of a failsafe, open to having to sacrifice himself. And just as we’ve already seen, he will be reborn, this time, blowing up the island in the process, which the Swan station represents. What kind of answers does this ultimately give us? MIB already told us.

The ancients who dug the well did so because their compasses spun like crazy at that spot. They dug because they were looking for answers but they got none. The message for us is that we will not be given the answers, but must uncover them for ourselves. Well, we will be given answers, it’s just that some things are not answerable. As DJ Lazlo (giving me a guardian angel message as radio DJs are prone to do) pointed out to me during our Lost segment on his show, MIB’s remark hinted to the compass that was passed back and forth between Locke and Alpert through time. The message seems to be that we cannot understand everything. This humbling fact is in itself a lesson. We will never understand all of Lost or life because then there would be nothing left for us to do. No mysteries left to uncover. Life would be boring. In fact, even the answers that we do get from the show have different meaning for each of us, depending on where you are on our own life’s journey. Are you just beginning, in the middle, at the end, or ready to pass on what you’ve learned? Are you a candidate?

Speaking of candidates, in the coming attractions for next week’s episode, ABC edited together what I found to be the best, and certainly most chilling preview yet. Intriguingly, they used a sped-up version of Gene Wilder singing, “The Rowing Song” from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Those of you who have been reading this column since the start of the season know that I compared Lost to the Willy Wonka film because of the similarities with the candidate process (see “Lost In Myth: Why LOST Can Be A Substitute For ‘Willy Wonka’”). Each child/Lostie is tempted with their own personal issue to see which one would overcome it and take over the responsibilities of the chocolate factory/island.

So, is Lost somehow acknowledging this connection, or is it all just a coincidence? Well, if Lost ends with Jacob and Hurley riding in a great glass elevator overlooking the island and its chocolate rivers and Everliving Alpertstoppers and polar bears that lay golden eggs and Others-loompas and an MIB Slugworth, well, you’ll realize that you’ve been on acid or in a coma this entire time and imagined your life for the past six years watching an imaginary show called Lost. Then, when you wake up in this Lost-less world, you can write it yourself and become a millionaire! Then again… (Pick one)

a)    maybe that only happens in your parallel life.
b)   who the heck would’ve actually bought this kooky show in the real world!
c)    perhaps in the real world you are actually lost on a tropical island and that’s why you’ve been hallucinating about one.
d)   maybe you’ll just do some more acid and see what other gems are hiding in your brain.
e)    All of the above. After all, if there’s one thing that Lost has taught us, it’s that multiple realities can exist simultaneously.


Marc Oromaner
is a New York City writer whose book, The Myth of Lost offers a simple solution to Lost and uncovers its hidden insight into the mysteries of life. He can be contacted in the discussion section of The Myth of Lost Facebook page.

The Myth of Lost is available on Amazon and barnesandnoble.com.

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53 Responses to “Marc Oromaner’s Lost In Myth: Everybody Loves Answers”


  1. GettingArztedWithIlana says:

    Superfunny epi and touching at times.. but what a great mistake in having Desmond run over Locke like it was nothing! I mean Darlton always talks about the importance of characters in the story, and then they pursue actions like this one that is completely OUT OF CHARACTER?
    “Desmond thought that the Man In Black—the man who threw him down the well—was actually Locke, and perhaps he wanted to get revenge in the flash-sideways.” Ok, this would be the only scenario I’d accept; otherwise, had Desmond the knowledge of running over John Locke itself, that would suck.
    Des is a good man, never hurted anyone on purpose. When he killed Inman, he started crying and shaking: that was a true response, good writing. I once runned over a woman with my car, and I started crying and trembling. That’s what shock does.

    • RandomZombie says:

      I wouldn’t be out of character for someone who was determined to make certain people, Locke included, make a connection with their other-dimensional selves.

      Great changes for Locke have always been accompanied by physical injury or debilitation. His father pushing him through the window is fairly obvious. When he needed to find the Nigerian plane, his ability to walk was taken from him. When he needed to find direction, and try and stop communication with the freighter, he was shot by Ben. The discovery of the blast door map, which lead to the discovery of the Pearl station and Locke’s doubt, was accompanied by another leg injury. After the Swam implosion he lost his ability to speak, which resulted in the sweat lodge and a vision showing him what to do next. His leg was broken during the process of getting off the island to bring the others back, and a key element in the Oceanic Six returning to the island was Locke’s death.

      Given all of this, it would make sense that a severe injury would be necessary for Locke to connect with his on-island self. Desmond, his true situation and knowledge being beyond our understanding at the moment, probably knew this. Running over Locke had nothing to do with what the Man in Black did to island-Desmond, it was simply his version of what was necessary to accomplish Desmond’s goal. Desmond himself had to meet Penny, Hurley had to connect with Libby, and Locke had to be brought to the brink of death – much as Charlie was, on the plane, when he connected with the island-reality and saw Claire.

      • RandomZombie says:

        A few things more: One, sorry about the typos, it’s very late and I should be in bed. Two, when they show Locke’s face after Desmond hits him it looks as if he could be seeing glimpses of the island-reality. That’s what I thought when I saw it, anyway.

      • Yes, Locke seems to need pain to rise to the next level. The more pain, the higher he rises. There was also him getting shot in the leg by Ethan and his off-island car crash. Because Locke has so far to climb up, he is not proactive enough on his own, so the universe must push him. I definitely agree that this will be the result of Locke being hit by Desmond. What I’m not sure of though yet, is Desmond’s intentions. I am hoping that they are for the greater good. But couldn’t he have just choked Locke or put a towel around his face or something? Guess this made for better TV.

        As for Locke’s seizure-like mannerisms at the end, yeah, noticed that. Could very well be his glimpses.

    • Sorta Cute Smitty says:

      I don’t think it’s out of character at all. Desmond has realized that Locke in the sideways world is really MIB.

      • matp says:

        No, It’s very obviously in order to get Locke to remember the island. Charlie and Desmond both got their original flashes of the island when they were near death. Desmond runs Locke over to get him to have flashes of the island.

        It has nothing to do with Locke being MIB or vice versa and Desmond wanting to hurt him.

        • The Mantis says:

          My, aren’t we self righteously sure of ourselves….

          • RandomZombie says:

            Why, yes. Yes we are.

            Of course, we’re also used to being completely sure about something on Lost, only to find out that we were horribly, utterly wrong.

          • Motherlode says:

            apparently you are as well with your snipe

        • tabula rasa says:

          I agree. This show has always been on some level a war or power struggle between Jack and Locke, the Man of Science and Man of Faith. I think Desmond knows that he needs to bring those two together again in order to have them stir the passionate feelings that seem to trigger the Island memories.

          The other castaways at this point have had love trigger their memories, but it’s not a stretch to think that other passionate feelings, such as hate or frustration wouldn’t do the same.

          Jack will have to “fix” Locke at the hospital, and the Island connection will be made is my guess. Of course, this is Lost and I’m often totally wrong.

          • Dominick says:

            Does Des really have to drive a crippled man down to get him together with Jack? Don’t you think he might try something like, “Hello brutha. I know an excellent spinal surgeon you might like to have a consultation with.”

            Also, if it is any attempt to get AltLocke to have a vision of himself in the island universe, would he just see the inside of his dead eyelids?

          • Motherlode says:

            Yes I think so Dom.. seeing as Locke in the boxis buried on the island

        • Handsome Smitty says:

          Matp is right. I also think awakening Locke in Sideways(c) might have some impact on MIB, even though it’s only Locke’s shape and not his actual body.

  2. Backedbob says:

    Ok. You are making a lot of biblical-religious-type of connections with
    angels-arch-angels and Jesus like figures..etc
    I understand the archetypal resemblance but my objection is only one.

    That is that LOST has created its own kind of myth and “religion” and it is so fascinating that we should be creating new way’s and words
    to talk about it also as well, rather than making all the classic
    biblical-religious connections.

    Maybe i sound weird but i cant think about LOST in such a Christianity-biblical way. It ruins it for me..

    • B.A.Y. says:

      Think about it however best suits you. The message remains the same. I think this is what Marc is saying. At least, that’s what I took from his brilliant column this week.

  3. Ament says:

    Wasn’t one of the song’s from Willy Wonka, “Pure Imagination”.

    “If you want to view paradise
    Simply look around and view it
    Anything you want to, do it
    Wanta change the world?
    There’s nothing
    To it.”

    This song goes pretty well with the theme of LOST, kind of like “Wizard of OZ” and Pink Floyd’s “Dark Side Of The Moon”.

  4. The Mantis says:

    I’m not convinced that Desmond thinks Flocke is “regular” Locke. That’s just speculation. Plus, Desmond isn’t really the revenge type guy, I don’t think he hit Locke out of “revenge” for throwing him down the well, I think he’s more in tune with what’s going on in both realities and was indeed protecting everyone on the Island, but from Flocke. Not John Locke. Ya know, Since the realities are starting to bleed together… Or what RandomZombie said, that’s good too.

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  6. dksrox says:

    Isn’t Desmond hitting Locke sort of a course-correction for Locke? He was meant to meet Jack in the Sideways, and Jack offered to help him. Ater rejecting Jack and his help, now Locke HAS to see Jack, and Jack will help him walk again. Wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see Sideways Locke walking by the finale. S’all I’m saying.

  7. Kevonsky says:

    I can’t believe I am doing this, but for the first time you have kind of offended me and I gotta say something.
    “Hugo’s gut is bigger than most,..” I get how you are using it, but seems like a cheap/unnecessary shot, even if unintentional.

    Otherwise I always enjoy your pieces, but this just struck me as being “off”.

    • Desmond could’ve easily told Hugo to go with his instinct, his intuition, do what he feels is right, listen to his inner-voice, etc. But he said, “go with your gut” and at that moment, they cut to a shot of Hugo. The choice of words was definitely intentional and relating to his archetypal role in the story. Hurley is The Buddha. another classic Buddha archetype is Winnie the Pooh. He is larger than life, but like an innocent child. He is a sleeping giant. But a gentle giant.

      When most people go with their gut, they only have the average gut to go with. But Hurley is special. What society may judge as a hinderance can be used to his benefit. Being large has done a number on his self-esteem. His mother hasn’t helped. His low self confidence has reduced his ego to a pont where he is more open than most to hearing the whispers and seeing ghosts. His biggest challenge is also his biggest strength. In the real world, an overweight millionaire would have absolutely no problem whatsoever meeting women, and certainly would not have been stood up by his grandfather’s neighbor! The show is making a point. This almost all seems to be coming from Hugo’s perspective. The world is treating him as he sees himself. If he sees himself as a leader as Michael suggests, his whole world will follow suit.

      As of now, Hugo seeks acceptance just by giving–hoping people will like him. But as I mentioned in the column, he must learn how to receive. To do this, he has to be comfortable with who he is. Desmond was subliminally helping him do this by saying, “yeah, you’ve got a big gut. But you know what? That’s your gift.”

      That was my point. Thanks for allowing me to clarify.

  8. mpl says:

    Desmond hit Locke because near-death experiences, or meeting your soul-mate, can trigger connections to the Island world. Hugo found his connection with Libby, so Hugo’s ok. Desmond is trying to give Locke his opportunity.

  9. thorne47 says:

    I think conecting to the island world is unique to the charater. They are remembering the island life when they do something in the real world that they have also experienced in the island world.(it’s de ja vu on crack…) For instance, Charlie drove Desmond’s car into the bay, not to create a near death experience, but to re-create the “not Penny’s boat” situation. If you watch, Des doesnt have the flash until Charlie put his hand on the window. Same with Charlie. It took him choking to death on the plane to re-create almost dying at the hands of ethan. As for Hurley, I can’t remember if he and Libby kissed before, and it may take Locke actually dying to get him to flash through his island life…

    • The Mantis says:

      Right on.

    • Ament says:

      Thats the thought we need, it’s intense emotional feeling combined with an exact (or close to) circumstance that they’ve already encountered. So what intense emotional moments could possibly wake up the others? Will Sayid need to have a loved one die in his arms as Shannon did which could also be considered course correcting being that Nadia died?

  10. Jack's Sidekick says:

    As for Desmond hitting Locke with his car, I think he knows that he needs to get Locke to his island “connection.” Everyone would first think that Jack would connect with Kate and remember but I think it’s not about Jack and Kate; Kate is connected to Sawyer. I expect Jack and Locke to be connected in this sense and they will both remember together during or after surgery. Also, with Locke injured, Claire pregnant, Sayid’s brother in the hospital needing family visitors, Charlie stuck on suicide watch and Sun shot, I expect the hospital to get pretty busy.

  11. mpress says:

    Marc – or anyone else who can help me – you keep referring to “the myth” as if there is only one . . . are you referring to the meta-narrative of the hero-myth as cobbled together by Joseph Campbell? Thx.

    • The monomyth or hero’s journey myth–yes. I wouldn’t consider it meta however. While many of us are conscious of it and its rules, the myth itself does not usually refer to itself in the narratives that I’ve seen. I’m sure that there are some examples. LOST sometimes gets meta with Hurley or Miles–the trickster characters–usually regarding fan theories or time travel. But I’ve never heard them or anyone else on the show refer to archetypes or even villains as say, FlashForward has done. If you’d like to expand on what you consider to be meta-narrative, I’d be interested in hearing it.

      • mpress says:

        Thanks Marc – I bought your book, and it bugged there too, since you often refer to “the myth” and the only way I could be sure exactly what you are referring to is to ask!

        By metanarrative, I mean the overriding story that gives all others their shapes and meanings . . . in the same way that the earth is derived from (or arises from) the universe, and so refers back to it, Lost’s major story arc arises from the hero’s journey. In other words, this is the category (and experience)to which all heroic tales belong and have, in a sense, arisen from. I refer to it as a metanarrative because Campbell’s version is not local and specific, but attempts to capture *all the important elements available in *all hero’s journeys, regardless of what culture produced them.

        (In most cultures, their cosmology is the metanarrative – it provides the container for all other meanings, and the overarching orientation, and purpose.)

        I read a lot of Jung and Jungians – who I’m sure you know! – love their myths . . . there are so many that point to transformation and transcendence of ordinary time and circumstance and that can (and do) provide wonderful maps to the territories of our lives. I have no quarrel with Campbell or his creation of the template of the hero – it just helps me as I read these columns to be clear that it is this archetypal tale that you are referring to.

        This may all be clear as mud – if it is, let me know and I’ll try again :-)

        (btw, I understand Miles and Hurley sometimes step outside of the ongoing narrative and speak for the audience . . . I never really thought about that in meta terms tho’. As with any good mythic tale, I expect that I am going to have to do a fair amount of work to capture all that it might be saying . . . and that’s why I read you and the other Doc!)

        • I understand what you’re saying. I think monomyth is really what you’re talking about–the template from which all other myths base themselves. Still, I see that as being different from meta as I understand it. T o me, meta is when a story (or whatever) is aware of, or refers to, itself. If you saw the movie “Adaptation” I would consider that meta because the story is about how a script should be written in order to be a hit, and this begins to happen in the very movie you are watching. The way I see it, there are no new myths. Not one. They are all based on an original story that goes back since the dawn of man and maybe earlier. They are all descendants of the monomyth. There are several subdivisions of this myth, but they still all follow the basics.

  12. maryanne says:

    I’m wondering what everyone thinks about this: in every other sideways story it is obvious that we are watching different versions of the characters we’ve grown to love over the last 6 years except in Hurley’s story. Hurley felt familiar, the same Hurley we know. And he didn’t get a mirror moment. Why aren’t there 2 versions of Hurley?

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  14. Handsome Smitty says:

    Sigh. Ninety percent preaching and 10% Lost.

  15. LnGrrrR says:

    Marc,

    I believe that Des is able to see the future with regularity now… which is why he wasn’t afraid of the MiB, why he wanted to go with Sayid, and why he knew that running down Locke would not kill him.

    He is at peace with his destiny, and as he said to Widmore, he knows what must be done.

  16. elijahmoon says:

    My God has given me a TON of knowledge and direction. daily! every second! Theres an entire book if fact. The New Testament. It in and of itself has the answer to ANY problem life can throw at me. As if this wasnt enough Jesus also sent the comforter (The Holy Spirit) who leads me into all truth. Im fully equipped to handle any and all problems and I can accecess the wisdom of God any time I want. Its great. Really I dont know how ppl get along w/o Him.. inspiration from a horoscope… wow… really???? lol good luck with that!

    • That’s great that you are able to find relevance and advice from the New Testament. But one of the things that makes this world so beautiful is that everyone is different. Since I believe that God is everywhere and in everything including us, I believe that everything is holy. God can talk through a horoscope, or tea leaves, or from the texts of any religion or even a TV show like LOST. I like what Neale Donald Walsch says in “Conversations With God”: “Ours is not a better way. Ours is merely another way.” In fact, I’m pretty sure there’s something about that in the New Testament.

  17. lostiscrack says:

    Dear marc,
    I think your columns are the best by far. reading them is like a great lost episode
    i have to rewind it again to take it all in. I have a feeling a lot of people are going to mad when lost ends saying they got no answers…in fact we have all the answers we need if you are still watching to see what whispers in the jungle instead of admiring the great storytelling and messages..you have missed a great show and you are lost and will never be a candidate..reread marcs column again until u stop asking to solve a mystery there is none, i will go so far as to say i dont care if they get off the island if mib is a drag queen if this is about religion or myth thats just stuff….back to why marc is so dam good (and lost)its about the message !

  18. lostiscrack says:

    if you want to read a great column i read long ago go to losthurrah.com and read lighthouse the loophole one great article.then i suggest you go back and rewatch DEAD IS DEAD and if u have timeTHE LIFE AND DEATH OF JB your mouths will drop at how much we already know…and i suggest using closed caption..”the constant” is another must. which brings me to a thought or question the whole time mib was creating loophole jacob was doing the same with touching people..

  19. lostiscrack says:

    one more thought for the road…hurley can speak to the dead fact….Desmond randown locke in a false reality(desmond is no killer)so maybe locke will be in a coma but i think he has to die..let me explain why hes been told several times in order to save the island he must die!!!!now locke is dead again off island and who can speak with the dead on island ..hurley whos buried at the foot of the statue..he who will save us all….john locke ..i was leaning toward jack being the replacement but marc im starting to agree with you its locke ressurected by hurley….ilana didnt die cause she didnt listen that was just stuff..she died screaming at us dont let that thing off the island because if you do KABOOM!!!she did not die in vein richard i got that message loud and bomb clear.now which charcter is dead off the island and has time now to protect the island locke and not that sneaky mib whose gonna have to leave that body cause i see locke peeking through

  20. maryanne says:

    what if everything that is happening off Island is exactly what Locke wants? Desmond waking everyone up to their island lives in the sideways might make them aware of the sideways world on the island. If that happens, Locke won’t have to kill anyone. They might be willing to kill each other for the happily ever after awaiting them in the sideways world.

  21. lostiscrack says:

    im done! i just read all your season 6 articles marc and dont take me wrong im in love with your brain.to go in detail would be all day how much i related and saw in my life that relate so much its erie.though im no religiuos person i do understand why it must exist(wink).from the phantom menace read had me lmao, to the how people mooch off you and how they dissappear..people dont believe how much ive had deja vu i dont even think its weird..i have it so bad i can dream a person and wake up and have a missed call from them trust me im not crazy or think this is weird anymore.the worse thing that use to get me was the random stranger thing or the not seeing some1 for years think about them and out the clear blue poof.i always thought i was different now i know im just aware.The part that hit me the hardest was the part the media plays and when you told the story about your mom.wow
    i dont doubt you a minute. i have been in a relationship for awhile so i was thinking wheres this going, so out the blue i get a text from my partner,once again dissapointing me so guess what movie i turn to on cable at the exact moment Brokeback mountain and the last scene man i swear i cried and i had seen this movie before…if i have to explain anything else im jack minus the wife i mean word for word scene for scene was my life. i think im lucky to have parents in love one of faith one of science kept me wih an open mind. bigger then all that your reads really gave me an understanding that i couldnt put my hand on and today im smiling at things(in a des way) like i get it.ive always been the person who told it as i see it and like you say that makes people not like you,but one thing i have learned my gut is always right and people always come back to me and thank me for knowledge i give them so even though i do have issues i accept my role as a candidate thanks marc

  22. Meli says:

    Thanks Marc. Always enjoy reading your perspective.

  23. greg dharma says:

    been thinking about the ilana situation. her death was kind of the final awakening needed for hurley to assume the mantle of leadership, wasn’t it? maybe that’s why the island was done with her–she was no longer needed to advance them across the board.

  24. Bakedbob says:

    Well after reading all about how special Hugo can be i have to say that for me
    Hugo has been a great character but certainly not a strong one.
    I mean he is the last one i would think that can replace Jacob.
    How come everybody is crazy about Hugo and that he most likely will replace Jacob?
    ..Hello…?? Jack anybody Desmond perhaps?
    How can someone get absorbed in Hugo’s character and not recognizing the new Jacob-acting Desmond and the great manifestation of Jack’s faith.
    I mean c’mooooooon.

    Hugo’s best “moment” for me was when discussing time-travel with Miles..
    And his fan-based lines..
    But when he steps into MIB’s camp with the other candidates-survivors- he looks so weak and scared and leaves everything up to Jack in a snap.
    And then look at JAck when he jumps right up against MIB when MIB stands up while their little “Catching up”.

    Jack is the man.And im not letting go of that.
    (Strangly thats what i thought of Locke also in the first seasons)
    and if they do a Locke2Flocke thing to Jack…(kill him anyway i mean)
    i’m gonna find them and kill them with Locke’s knife. lol

  25. Anthony says:

    Well after reading all about how special Hugo can be i have to say that for me
    Hugo has been a great character but certainly not a strong one.
    I mean he is the last one i would think that can replace Jacob.
    How come everybody is crazy about Hugo and that he most likely will replace Jacob?
    ..Hello…?? Jack anybody Desmond perhaps?
    How can someone get absorbed in Hugo’s character and not recognizing the new Jacob-acting Desmond and the great manifestation of Jack’s faith.
    I mean c’mooooooon.

    Hugo’s best “moment” for me was when discussing time-travel with Miles..
    And his fan-based lines..
    But when he steps into MIB’s camp with the other candidates-survivors- he looks so weak and scared and leaves everything up to Jack in a snap.
    And then look at JAck when he jumps right up against MIB when MIB stands up while their little “Catching up”.

    Jack is the man.And im not letting go of that.
    (Strangly thats what i thought of Locke also in the first seasons)
    and if they do a Locke2Flocke thing to Jack…(kill him anyway i mean)
    i’m gonna find them and kill them with Locke’s knife. lol

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