Comments on: LOST Finale Clip – “The Incident”

By: imfromthepast

imfromthepast — Mon, 11 May 2009 21:51:25 +0000

“Whatever Happened, Happened”? What are you talking about?

By: Pete

Pete — Mon, 11 May 2009 16:17:40 +0000

Jack’s a smart guy but he’s always been very emotional.
I don’t know that “Man Of Science” was ever a good title for him.
He was absolutely more on the side of logic than Locke, but he’s never taken a true evidence-based approach to what’s going on around him.
He’s simply been in denial.
Unfortunately, I don’t think skepticism is represented well on this show.
It is what it is.

By: neoloki

neoloki — Mon, 11 May 2009 02:23:47 +0000

Widmore is Dan’s father.

By: neoloki

neoloki — Mon, 11 May 2009 02:20:05 +0000

I agree. just because some one is a surgeon does not make them a genius or even extraordinarily intelligent about anything other than what they have spent their life doing. Doctors even more so when they have to spend as much time as they do in medical school and then residency.

There are a myriad of different ways to be intelligent and the same can be said for being stupid.

By: m-lost

m-lost — Sun, 10 May 2009 19:11:16 +0000

Does anyone think that maybe Richard maybe Faraday’s real dad?

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Anonymous — Sun, 10 May 2009 10:53:46 +0000

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By: Flash Forward

Flash Forward — Sun, 10 May 2009 03:58:27 +0000

I was just discussing this with someone! No one is real clear on what “the incident” really was. All they know is that there is an explosion at the swan station. So we don’t know if the bomb was detonated there or if it was something with the electromagnetism itself. I think Jack is the cause of the incident. It’s just a little too ironic…don’t cha think?

By: dani2066

dani2066 — Sat, 09 May 2009 07:45:20 +0000

Does anyone but me believe Whatever Happened, Happened? Everything that they have tried to change-they didn’t. They just did what already happened in the past. So if Jack is going to try and do something with the bomb it is probably only going to be what already happened which is what caused the Swan station to have to enter the numbers. Which is kinda funny that Jack didn’t believe in entering the numbers and he’s probably the one that caused it all to happen.

By: Ament

Ament — Sat, 09 May 2009 04:20:08 +0000

It is starting to make sense with his abrupt change I mean he had always went against Locke and Jack being level headed who believed to no end he was right ended up being wrong, and instead of simply crashing on an island when aboard Ajira he flashed back 30 years. The button in the hatch he was against when Locke was gung-ho in making sure it got pushed, the Freighter “beginning of the end” locke was right and Jack went against it.

Jack then spent 3 years thinkin, drinkin, and regretting. To solidify his regret he gets a note “to believe”. So on faith he puts his dad’s shoes on John which IMO symbolizes Jack ready to believe. As they all board Ajira you gotta figure Jack thinks alright i’m ready for a crash when instead the island pulls him from the plane and flashes him back 30 years. If that doesn’t make him convinced that the island is special or in destiny than not much else would….and after being a patient laid back “workman” he’s ready to believe destiny, purpose, and that he plays a role. Faraday got him syked.

By: awesomeedman

awesomeedman — Sat, 09 May 2009 03:09:51 +0000

Yeah, but remember when he was putting Christian’s Shoes on Locke before the flight? He still thought Locke was crazy. Then after time traveling, he told Kate straight up that he was wrong about John.

By: adam118

adam118 — Fri, 08 May 2009 15:09:50 +0000

Seems like Sayid had been following/spying on Jack Kate and Faraday the whole time.

By: thorsten

thorsten — Fri, 08 May 2009 13:44:06 +0000

Absolutely. My GF is a neurosurgeon, and the description fits

By: JB psydoc

JB psydoc — Fri, 08 May 2009 13:41:14 +0000

he finally started admitting things were strange once he was on the ajira plane (before he jumped 30 years into the past)

By: imfromthepast

imfromthepast — Fri, 08 May 2009 13:03:52 +0000

It has been my experience that intelligence is not universal. It is completely acceptable that a brilliant spinal surgeon could be naive when it comes to time travel.

By: thorsten

thorsten — Fri, 08 May 2009 10:56:03 +0000

No, it’s gone.

By: ax

ax — Fri, 08 May 2009 08:43:29 +0000

i fail at typing

By: ax

ax — Fri, 08 May 2009 08:40:14 +0000

cancel that, i missed think link posted

By: ax

ax — Fri, 08 May 2009 08:38:55 +0000

it says its no longer available

By: spinflip

spinflip — Fri, 08 May 2009 07:50:50 +0000

Yeah, and he actually saw his father’s ghost several times, once off the island. I can imagine that this would be very… impressive.

By: awesomeedman

awesomeedman — Fri, 08 May 2009 07:26:28 +0000

Not to mention Locke mentioning Jack’s dead father… whom Locke should have no knowledge of whatsoever. That message clearly had an impact on Jack.

By: awesomeedman

awesomeedman — Fri, 08 May 2009 07:23:43 +0000

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that he time traveled 30 years into the past.

By: JB

JB — Fri, 08 May 2009 05:38:39 +0000

But he didn’t believe it when the island literally disappeared in front of his eyes…it took 3 years for him to be convinced…hurley (I think) says to him “I can’t believe he did it…locke moved the island” and Jack snaps back “he didn’t do anything” (not exact quotes, but close enough)…even having Locke end up in his hospital as a patient 3 years after the horrible events of their last day on island was not enough proof (immediately, anyway…he did seem to plant the seeds of doubt since Jack shortly after this encounter steadily unwound & stopped shaving/became the drunken mess professing the need to “go back”)…He witnessed so many things during those 108 days while there that could have provided mounting evidence that things were quite “special” about the island.

By: accessoire

accessoire — Fri, 08 May 2009 05:18:12 +0000

I defintely think it is possible to change from a “man of science” to a “man of fate” for jack. I guess the reason for this is that Jack was always doubting it but there were at least two things that made him believe.

First: One huge island disappeared in front of him. The man of fate (John) must have been right about everything he said.

Second: I think Jack finally kind of understood what the island does. The island heals people. They body and moreover the soul of the people. It is pure salvation from your past. (Funny that the island has much to do with time)

By: Charlie's Ghost

Charlie's Ghost — Fri, 08 May 2009 04:54:59 +0000

I’m with you JB. too much of a sudden change from one extreme to another.

By: JB

JB — Fri, 08 May 2009 04:27:11 +0000

I’m a little disappointed that someone of Jack’s intelligence would just blindly accept this as being a good idea (and sayid for that matter, but clearly he is still not thinking straight after nadia’s death-based on his decision to become an assasign for the very man he tortured & swore off as his enemy while on the island)…

I don’t buy Jack’s sudden surrender to fate and disregard for any logic whatsoever! I’m sorry, but a “man of science” does not just abandon his whole belief/value system like that without more hard evidence…After all of the totally bizarro things that he’s experienced, the thing that finally gets him to question his beliefs and consider destiny/fate is the fact that they all somehow ended up on the same ajira airline flight in epi 316? He remarks to Kate in this episode how it totally “meant something” that they all just happened manage to get together and get on that flight back to the island…really? THAT was what did it & finally convinced him to adopt this locke-ian attitude for his tenure with the DI in 77?

And how can Richard be the only voice of reason in this…he has to be the one who questions the logic of this detonation plan? if he didn’t think it was a good idea, why did he swim down there in the first place?

Not to mention, that setting off a nuke on an island can’t possibly be good for Ellie’s peeps…even if she believes it will undo what she’s done or somehow change things, if she is even a slightly bit intelligent, she has to figure there would be major side effects from nuclear radiation, no? she is the constant voice of reason (sacrificing her own son for the majority of her life in the future), so where is any glimpse of intelligence now in her thinking???
(sorry for the long rant…I had to get it out…its been building up for awhile!)