Comments on: 5×12 “Dead is Dead” Investigations

By: Lebowski Achiever

Lebowski Achiever — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 00:29:40 +0000

I think once Sayid saw Little Ben he actually said, now I know why I came here…or something like that. He didn’t want to come back but was brought there nonetheless. He figures there needs to be a reason he was brought back and killing Ben seem like a good place to start…expecially if he listened to Widmore tell a few stories.

Good question BTW – WTF is Sayid and what has he been up to?

By: Silvertouch

Silvertouch — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:14:01 +0000

That makes sense. It would explain the seemingly random MacCutcheon placement. But it removes creedence from the idea that Sayid returned to the island to try and kill Ben.

Oh yeah, that reminds me. Where IS Sayid?

By: Lebowski Achiever

Lebowski Achiever — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:38:06 +0000

Along with Iliana and the rest of the beach crew working for Widmore, is it possible Sayid is as well? Sayid is feeling without purpose after he has killed everyone on Ben’s list and is approached by Widmore. This is where he aquires a taste for the same brand of liquor Widmore favors. Widmore fills his head with the evil Ben speech like he gave to Locke. Widmore hires Iliana to bring Sayid to the right place for him to go back. Once back he thinks he needs to kill young Ben.

Someone tell me why I am crazy.

By: EkoEko

EkoEko — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:40:30 +0000

I agree completely; for a minute there i thought i was alone on that one. I think that in fact, they are indeed the new Dharma. That is why the ARG recruitment game existed…it paralleled the introduction of these newer characters like Ilana and the burly guy who was with her (who is super creepy) when she knocked out Lapidus.

The donkey wheel is in the shadow of the statue. It seems as though the donkey wheel, and the well, is a mile or less directly behind the statue…that is where they are headed, and that is also where locke is probably headed…

All paths here point to the Incident. Could it be that Ilana, Locke, Sun, et al turn the donkey wheel and that is what causes the incident? Ilana and team are going back in time perhaps to stop the purge or fight the purge, or maybe even to start it, since Mikhail said that Dharma was the one who initiated it…

By: jimmy zer0

jimmy zer0 — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:08:34 +0000

He called them cerberus vents because thats what the CV stood for on the blast door map. confirmed by the writers.

By: Landry B.

Landry B. — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:58:57 +0000

I seriously just LOL at work on this one…me too man, me too…

By: DT

DT — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:21:23 +0000

Ilana and the other people are the reconstituted DI that Chang refers to in the Video from Comic-con. They did not know each other before arriving and the riddle is the code. The Well/Orchid?donkey Wheel lie in the shadow of the statue as we saw during the time flashes.

By: stu

stu — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:17:00 +0000

Thank u!

By: stu

stu — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:16:15 +0000

He found it in 2004, but lost it again in when the wheel was turned and ben killed keamy. so in 2007 hre was still looking, and also he says nearly 2o years.

By: Jacob

Jacob — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:08:13 +0000

Or we could just look it up now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anubis

“Although the Greeks and Romans typically scorned Egypt’s animal-headed gods as bizarre and primitive (they mockingly called Anubis the “Barker”), Anubis was sometimes associated with Sirius in the heavens, and Cerberus in Hades.”

By: Board games - LOSTTalk.net

Board games - LOSTTalk.net — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:09:15 +0000

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By: Jangras

Jangras — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:27:56 +0000

1) About Egyptian Underworld:
“Death – The Underworld and the Hall of the Two Truths
The journey through the Underworld and the terrifying tests culminated in the day of judgement in the Hall of the Two Truths. The ruler of the Kingdom of the Underworld was Osiris, the “Lord of Eternity”. The god of the Dead Anubis would lead the dead in the Underworld to the Hall of Two Truths, where the deceased would stand in front of Osiris, the head of the Court of the Dead, and forty two judges.

The Underworld and the Great Scales of Truth and the ‘Get out’ Clause
In the Hall of Two Truths the deceased was led to a great set of scales where his or her heart containing the deeds of their lifetime was weighed against the feather of truth, which symbolised Maat the goddess of justice. The Egyptians believed that they could withstand the Test of the Balance with a magical scarab charm which would prevent the conscience telling the whole truth. The dead were able to obtain salvation by knowledge of magical charms even if they lead a sinful life.”

2) The codeword: it seems Ilana was expecting Lap to be one of his men. Could it be the other pilot (the dead one) was supposed to be there instead of Lap?

By: Handsome Smitty

Handsome Smitty — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:55:05 +0000

Llana is probably a Widmorian, but there is another possibility.

RA is able to leave the Island (visits with John). Llana and friend or true “Others”, not recruits like Ben, who work directly for RA and answer only to him.

By: Handsome Smitty

Handsome Smitty — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:50:52 +0000

“Atlantis” lies in the shadow of the statue – the Island itself!

By: Benjamin

Benjamin — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:44:43 +0000

I dont know about anyone else..but all this talk about codewords and secret phrases that Ilana may or may not know just seems to be too much for me.

I’m probably totally wrong on this, but the first thing I thought of was..what if Ilana has some kind of Egyptian background or studied Egyptology in some way? Could there be more heiroglyphics on hydra island having to do with the statue and what lies in its shadow? If she can read heiroglyphics, it could lead to both many questions and answers concerning the island and its mythology.