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David is a Jack/Juliet kid. I’m calling it now.
Im with sneezy fo sheezy
wow, such a great call! But only if Juliet runs into Sawyer in a coffee shop.
I promised my 11 year old kid, Jack, I would post this (he wants the credit as the first)
Claire is now Flaire
Too bad he looks like Kate’s son then.
David does look like Kate. But where did he get those blue eyes? Christian?
David’s mother is not Kate. #1 she is a fugative. David lived with his mother. #2 Kate was on the flight with Jake and he didn’t acknowledger her. I think his mother is either Juliet or Sarah (Jack’s ex-wife).
I meant he wasn’t on the flight with Jack. I don’t know where Jake came from. Maybe too much TV watching.
I know he can’t be Kate’s son. He just looks like her.
with the exception of the giant lighthouse that nobody has ever seen I think this is the best episode since the season premiere.
Why isn’t the chat working tonight? It was so great last week.
Jack’s always annoyed me, but never more than in this episode.
Has he ever not been a condescending prick to Hurley?
I agree. And would you have smashed that cool lighthouse mirror? No, only Jack would do something like that.
The temple leader was in Jack’s flash-sideways. It seemed like an almost comical coincidence when we saw alterna-Ben and alterna-Ethan, but with tonight’s otherwise insignificant cameo it seems like something less coincidency is going on. Each candidate paired with an other, though it doesn’t look like they’re planning it that way themselves.
Alright! I freeze-framed every moment of the lighthouse scene!
51 – Austen!!!
And it’s not crossed out!
Now I just wonder why *Claire’s Friend* didn’t mention Kate to Sawyer down in his little cave.
Also, my guess is that the lighthouse is Jacob’s lair where he keeps track of the candidates, and the little cave that *Claire’s Friend/Un-Locke/Smokey/MIB/Jacob’s Nemesis* took Sawyer to is HIS lair, where he has written names on the walls as he’s discovered them, in order to keep track. He’s been spying on Jacob’s list of names somehow… Which is all organized on a spinning lighthouse wheel, which is more akin to what I’d imagine Jacob would do to keep track of his candidates. Also, Jacob = LIGHT (house), and Man In Black = DARK (cave). Just sayin’. Can’t wait for the articles to spring about the theories for this one.
Agree in every respect. And I am guessing that MIB did not mention Kate because he does not know about her status. Compare the ordered listings in the Lighthouse with the rather haphazard writing in the cave. (Also, did we see whether Locke’s name was crossed out in the Lighthouse?)
They didn’t show numbers that low, so no, it wasn’t visible in this episode.
I really have no problem with Jack. Never have. I am understanding him tons more in these last two seasons. He’s one of those people that we all know who carries the weight of the world on his shoulders, yet pretends not to. But everyone sees through it.
In this episode, he was a self-absorbed dick. He could have played with the wheel. Read the other names. Try to learn something. Yeah, that’s right, Jack could learn something. But Jack doesn’t believe he needs to learn anything he doesn’t choose for himself to know.
Wow, Matt. that’s so cool. I love how Jacob kept smiling at Hurley’s innocence. Very awesome scenes between those two.
What the hell is wrong with the chat tonight? I’ve tried posting 15-20 comments and they simply will not post…
RandallA, mine either. Very, very annoying.
The big question is who is candidate number 108?
I thought for sure it had to be Desmond but then I read that someone saw the name “Wallace”.
I’ll go for Wallace being Desmond–the Scottish philosopher:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wallace_(Scottish_philosopher)
Except apparently it’s crossed out.
Yup, he/she definitely is crossed out… but that still doesn’t rule out the possibility that Jacob wasn’t lying when he said someone is coming to the island. Because he did say that the person would find their way there regardless of the fact that Jack smashed the mirrors.
I wonder why Hurley wasn’t curious about his own name being on the wheel, and didn’t care to see what the image in the mirrors would be for himself.
Wanda, interesting call on Wallace/Desmond. We still do not have a back story on Des. BTW, there is a real person named Wallace Hume Carothers. An American born chemist and inventor. Had a sad life and committed suicide.
How could Hurley not have recognized the numbers!?!?!?
what about Walt?
108 is the sum of the 6 candidates (4-locke, 8-reyes, 15-ford, 16 jarrah, 23-shephard, 42-kwon), maybe not a specific person on the wheel… but a view of the combination of them all… future? valenzi solution to what they [all] are supposed to do.
for being dead and playing a game against flocke and all… jacob is pretty non-chalant. this gives me a God/Satan/Job picture. Not so much a dualist view of good and evil being equal and balanced (ying yang), but rather jacob with his apparent lack of haste letting flocke build the perfect mouse trap for Job and it fails
Satan fell because of his pride. He thought he would ascend higher, higher than the most high God. He still believes he can outwit God in this “game”. Cheat, read the last chapter of the book… he loses and he has had thousands of years thinking of how to try to change that.
(jacob)…”The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” 2 Peter 3:9 link
Its about redemption for jacob. but his sovereignty has manufactured the situations for the candidates to use their own free will. But like the Lord… It’s your choice to believe and accept the forgiveness of your sins
in the clip for next week… flocke says… “only those who don’t believe…” I wonder if this is a continuation of the Satan role… misquoting scripture to manipulate the candidates… down playing jacob’s desire for redemption
oh… some more scripture pertinent to this typology…
“And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.”
Roman 8:30 link. that happens to be in the section about being more than conquerors… hmm
for the record… I don’t believe jacob=God and flocke=Satan… I just think its bastardized typology
I think 108 is Desmond. I mean, he can’t just disappear forever. He has to be involved in the end.
On-island portion: Great stuff.
LAX timeline: slow, boring, waste of time.
I also thought it might be Widmore. He WANTS to find the island again.
I stopped it at 108, and the name was Wallace. And it was crossed out. Seems to not actually be important. The only reason for their trek there was for Jack to see his own name anyway. I wonder why Jacob didn’t tell them to turn it to Jack’s number 23 then…
I think it goes back to the Hurley / Jacob convo after the mirrors were smashed, where Jacob told Hurley that some people can be directly led (Hurley in the cab in LA), and some have to find their own way. Jack had to notice the 23 and his name by himself, so he can start to piece together what he has to do (whatever the hell that is).
Just my take and theory, which 99% of the time are 100% wrong…
Jacob didn’t tell Hurley to turn straight to Jack’s number because Jacob knows Jack is like a stubborn kid – no matter what you tell him to do, he wants to do the opposite. Jack has to discover the information himself before he can decide to trust it.
108 is not important. It’s a red herring. Jacob never intended to guide someone else to the Island. The trip was all about getting Jack to “stumble across” the mirror showing his house. It was about informing Jack without telling him directly – the only way Jack can accept such information.
The smashing of the mirrors is irrelevant. Hell, Jacob probably expected that.
We’d all be having a great conversation if chat was working. As it stands, I still hate Claire, I don’t care if she murders people or not. heh
The new Flaire (my sons new term for Claire) looks just like she did when she is Aarons room in Kate’s house and says “Don’t you dare bring him back”. Use to think she was referring to Aaron, then Locke, but now back to Aaron…
Meh… we can all just chat here!
And I’ve always loved Claire. I kinda miss innocent Claire though. I kinda wish that Jack’s flashsideways would have been about him meeting Claire, but him having a son was hella interesting too. Showed a very different side of him. I’m starting to really like these flashsideways.
Jack can still meet Claire. She just hasn’t needed a surgeon yet.
How does Dogen know that Claire, I mean Flaire, is Jack’s sister?
Ben’s Others had dossiers. Although maybe that’s too high tech for Dogen. In which case Christian/Smokey must have told him.
thanks Wanda. Interesting how Jack and Dogen are linked by their sons. I was expecting young Faraday to walk on the stage!
Matt, I just love it all, can’t get enough of the questions answered/questions raised that happens every week. I’ve never been on the Hate Kate wagon. I’ve just always thought Claire, Shannon and Michael were the 3 most boring characters.
My personal theory is that at the end, we will all decide who was good and who was evil. Was Jacob the good one and MIB the bad one? Really? Just like life, it’s subjective.
maybe they are both good and both bad. I think as the episodes unfold we are going to start seeing more of sideways life and less of island…working us all slowly into sideways life only…
To me, the one whom we’ve seen killing lots of people has got to be the evil one.
good and evil is absolute. your interpretation is subjective. that is why you must be informed by truth. enter moral relativism… aka mirky spring water
Just like saying ONE religion is the ONLY one that will get you into heaven. It just depends on what you believe. How (and where) you were raised.
We don’t even know if anyone is really on their way to the island…
in the sideways life, no one is on the island…
Thank you captian obvious, as the island is under water.
Randall, true, we don’t. But we know Widmore is trying hard to find it.
True dat. Good point.
But why would Jacob want to help Widmore get to the island…
Randall, no idea. Maybe because we all just THINK we know what’s up and what’s down, but we don’t know Jack. (okay, bad pun there. sorry)
108 – Wallace. And it’s crossed out. I’m telling you, it’s nothing special. All just part of Jacob’s game.
I don’t think anyone’s actually coming. I think the only purpose of them going to the lighthouse was seriously for Jack to see his name and find out that Jacob has been watching him. That way he knows he must be important for some reason. Jacob probably even knew that Jack would smash the mirrors.
I absolutely think the whole lighthouse trip was just Jacob’s plan to initiate Jack. Still, I’d be surprised if someone WASN’T coming, based on Jacob’s insistence “I’m sure they’ll find another way” and the writer’s penchant for forshadowing.
I also believe this battle at the temple will be going down soon, and like Jacob said he wants to get Jack and Hurley out of the line of fire.
Also, as it currently stands, everyone who is a candidate is not at the temple.
Sayid (Jarrah) is still at the temple, is he not? But now he’s apparently something ‘different’, so maybe he’s no longer a candidate because of that fact?
/brain cramp
I was really expecting Jacob to reply “they aren’t my mirrors” to Hurly when he was saying that Jack smashed them… As for who is coming, it’s either Desmond or Widmore but my bet is on Desmond since Eloise told him the island wasn’t finished with him and he promised Penny not to go back.
I’m thinking Matt might be right
I watched “dead is dead” before tonights episode and it makes a lot more sense. Flocke has been the smoke monster this whole time. He didnt go down there with him. Anyway, Widmore would not deserve to go back to the island. He ordered Ben to kill and innocent baby. That doesnt sound too GOOD to me.
True, but we can’t really predict how Jacob is arranging his pieces – Sawyer and Kate are both murderers, and Sayyid’s got plenty of blood on his hands.
Awfully interesting though that Smokey’s been walking around the island in his Locke suit since before the Ajira flight, by Claire’s admission. Unless she’s seen him shape-shift.
Son of a bitch. I was really hoping for someone to come.
And couldn’t they have stuck the lighthouse somewhere else? I mean, it’s so close to the caves and Sun and Sayid sailed around the island to the foot and didn’t see it?
Couldn’t the lighthouse be like the cabin in that it is not always in one place? Apparently Jacob, or someone like that, occasionally occupies both.
She has–he used to be in Christian’s body.
I don’t think Smokey has been walking about as Locke before Ajira at all. She just sees Smokey for what he is, or possibly she sees what Smokey WANTS her to see.
I don’t think Claire sees smokey in the Locke suit. That’s why she said “That’s not Locke, that’s my friend.” I don’t know what she sees, but I don’t think it’s the same face that Jin saw.
Agreed, basically.
I agree with that too. She definitely said he wasn’t John. I think she sees him differently.
Yeah you’re definately right about that. I feel kinda dumb that I didn’t take that into consideration. Maybe Widmore still has to redeem himself by fighting in “The War”.
Hope this isn’t too obvious: Claire said “First my father said they did, and then my friend.” So there is a differentiation between the two, or UnLocke was doing both.
Yeah, and also she said flat out that he was not John. I think she knows that’s just one form and has seen others, aside from Christian.
They’re still holding out MiB’s name. What could it possibly be that’s so revealing..dum dum dum
I guess we should’ve known it was him the second Claire refused to indentify “her friend.” It will be awesome if his name turns out to be Larry or something.
Yeah, it’s a little Harry Potter for me.
Speaking of Harry Potter, Ben is Severus Snape. Just a thought.
Isn’t he though? Not quite as evil as he’d like to be but forever scheming and dissatisfied.
How did he get that way in the sideways LA though, if Sayid didn’t shoot him?
haha Larry would be an awesome name for smokey. I might just call him that from now on anyways
Maybe MiB’s name is Wallace!! LOL!
Since Claire is referring to Flocke and Jacks ghost dad as two separate “friends” of hers I have a theory that there is more players to the game then just Jacob and man in black/Flocke. On the blast door map (from the hatch: season 2) the holes that the smoke monster come out of are referred to as Cerberus vents. Cerberus in Greek and Roman mythology is the 3 headed dog that guards the gates to hell. So either the smoke monster can manifest as 3 separate beings at a time or there are 2 more people/beings playing Jacob and MIB’s game?
oooooh i love this!!
So are the numbers finally resolved? They represent degrees which helps Jacob to point his looking glass towards certain candidates and bring them to the island. The numbers 4,8,15,16,23,42 are the final candidates remaining. I guess the only question is why did Dharma use them?
Well, actually 51 Austen is still remaining as well… It’s a completely random number though…
Well… 4+8+16+23=51…. but that’s about the only connection to the numbers I can find. And that might be stretching it a little bit, since it doesn’t include 15 or 42… but maybe there’s a reason why it’s just those 4 numbers?
4 Locke, 8 Reyes, 16 Jarrah, and 23 Shepherd… but no 15 Ford or 42 Kwon… I dunno… again, it’s a stretch, and I might be overanalyzing this all a little bit too much.
But if Kate really is one of the remaining candidates, why didn’t Flocke mention her to Sawyer? Maybe Flocke doesn’t know about her being a candidate? It appears as though all the etchings of the numbers and names on the walls and ceiling in the cave were done randomly, and not in any particular order, almost as if Flocke was writing them down as he found out about them… and Jacob kept his list in the lighthouse all organized-like on that wheel? So this would mean that Flocke doesn’t actually know ALL the names, only the ones he’s found out about perhaps by spying, or getting other people to tell him who are trusted by Jacob.
wow Matt, way cool on adding up those numbers to 51!
All the numbers add up to 108. So maybe the 108 degrees is the sum of the group of Oceanic candidates, making them special? Remeber Jacob said “it only ends once” and that appears to be where we are headed.
I agree with earlier posts that the Lighthouse was to get Jack to find out he’s been watched all this time. Try as he might to have faith, he is no John Locke and will need to be “shown” what is going on in order to act. Much like the apostle Doubting Thomas. Remember the conversation Jack and Ben had at the church about the painting depicting “Doubting Thomas” where the Lampost station was? It’s worth revisiting based on what happened last night.
Was I the only one who thought it was interesting that the writers actually gave a line to Jack like “why have we never seen it before?” (or something) in reference to the lighthouse?
Maybe there is more behind the lighthouse and why its taken so long to be noticed on the island thus far into the story. Sure it’s a big island..but still.
Well if they don’t put that line in it’s a plot hole, if they put it in it’s another mysterious island happening. That or it moves like the cabin.
The occasionally have characters speak thoughts the fans might have like last season with the whole time travel discussion between Hurley and Miles.
Also, It is a very large Island. Even Michael mentions this at the beginning of season 2. They were on the Island (Jack and the oceanic 6) for a matter of months. It would be more likely for them to have not seen the lighthouse rather than to have seen it.
there may be slightly more to the numbers then what we’ve learned but Im already pretty satisfied with the resolution we’ve gotten with them.
by the way, I’m new around here.
There IS no resolution. The numbers were used by Dharma in the Swan. The numbers were broadcast repeatedly from the Radio Tower. The numbers drove Leonard and Sam insane. The numbers cursed Hurley. There is MUCH more to the numbers than what we’ve been told.
Amazing episode. Questions: Jack’s mom mentions how upset David was at the funeral. So does that mean Christian’s body was found? Or did they have the funeral without the body? Or is this scene way, way after Jack arrives back in LA? Or could it possibly be someone else’s funeral? And why does Jack only see David once a month if they live so close to eachother? And WHY DOES JACK’S MOM LOOK SO MUCH LIKE AN ELDERLY KATE! And how come Jack seems to have such a bad memory in his sideways world?
We need screenshot of “Last Will and Testament” (who call it that!)
Would love to hear ideas….thanksD!
I’m sure they had the funeral without the body. The funeral was planned for the same day Jack got home with the body (Sept. 22nd 2004), and so I’m sure they just went along with plans, regardless of the fact that they didn’t have the body. And as far as Jack seeing his son only once a month… I dunno… some divorces end very roughly… Guess the terms of Jack’s divorce will be another LOST-question that will never be answered… but it’s not really that important… Hopefully we at least find out WHO he got divorced with.
Jack’s bad memory seems to indicate that he’s having some kind of deja vu of the island events… I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough!
I’m honestly more interested in the on-island questions though!
Thanks Matt. Well my bet is that David’s mom is Juliet. Same blue eyes. Like Christian. Like Aunt Flaire. Although David does look like Kate (who looks like Jack’s mom). But Kate was on the plane. I’m just happy they split up so Sawyer and Juliet can meet and have coffee!
BTW, whats your take on Hurley saying to Jack in the cave “what if these skeletons are us?”
I feel like jack’s memory could be as bad as it is because of drinking. His mom with the “Good for you” comment regarding jack’s refusal of a drink… that would also explain his strained relationship with his son. kids of alcoholics aren’t huge fans of their parents.
I believe it was the first season when Jack said the bodies were male and female – hence the “Adam and Eve” designation.
My take on the skeletons has and until I see enough to make me think otherwise, is that they are Jack and Kate. The two of them and Locke discovered them and Jack removed two stones, one black, one white, and we never see them again. This leads me to believe that Jack still has the stones and may have kept them on his person all the time he was trying to get back. I only think Kate is the female because, like it or not, they have a bond and I just don’t see Kate going to the dark side in this war, at least not in the end. In the end, if Jack is in need of her as an ally, she will go. Remember, she said “I have always been with you” in S4.
What the heck? Jack’s mom looks nothing like Kate.
Claire’s wigs are really bothering me.
me too! I keep thinking “Claire (now Flaire) go wash up and wash your hair!”. Danielle kept herself pretty clean, right!
As bad as her wigs were I was more freaked out by Jack’s Mom’s awful facelift. Truly frightening!
No kidding. She’s a bummer to look at!
Also, one other item. I noticed the wheel in the lighthouse made the same noise as the wheel to move the island. Very similar mechanism….
My Theory was right when they showed the promo for the lighthouse i was right when they show jacked smashing the things he didn’t like what he had saw
The Star Wars references keep on coming…If Jacob’s like Obi-Wan Kenobi, then Hurley must somehow be Yoda and Jack is Luke while Claire is Leia. Hmmm…maybe Jack needs to learn the force and move stuff with his mind before they can leave. Widmore could be the emperor and Jack’s father / fake Locke Vader… One other idea: The island is Purgatory as in “LOST” in Purgatory. Everyone is long gone and the final episode will begin with a plane crash and the news that all passengers on Oceanic Flight 815 have been killed. The island and all stories that followed were simply a way for these “LOST” souls to find their way back to the Light–or LIGHT HOUSE as this last episode might be pointing to. If each individual makes up a degree on that wheel and 23 is Jack’s while the central characters all have specific degrees matching up to the lotto numbers on Hugo’s lottery ticket, this all might be Hurley’s heaven–or purgatory vision. I’m done.
first off, luke could see Obi-wan Kenobi, but Jacob says Jack wouldn’t be able to see jacob. try again. second, the producers have already said along time ago that it is NOT purgatory, as was suggested by locke’s dad to sawyer in the black rock.
Did anyone besides me find it very moving when Jack stated that the reason he came back to the island was because he was broken and was hoping the island could fix him? To me, that and the comment 2 episodes ago about not trusting himself demonstrate that he hit rock bottom out “in the real world” and is slowly moving towards the “man of faith” position that Locke used to hold, which people were discussing during the latter half of season 5. I actually don’t blame him for smashing up the lighthouse mirrors. Do you remember how bereft and betrayed Locke felt when he thought everything was just a game and he wasn’t special after all? Jack’s reaction has a lot of similarities and I think we can all put ourselves in the shoes of someone who’s struggled with trust and acceptance all his life and finally took a huge leap of faith, only to find signs that his faith was misplaced yet again.
I think that theme is what the writers were trying to get across last night. Jack was a broken man and was looking toward the island for answers and direction.
Now he gets to the lighthouse and sees that Jacob has been watching him since he was a boy. He felt manipulated and angry.
I don’t blame him for smashing the mirrors. I believe that in Jack’s mind, he was angry that he came back to the island for nothing.
I think that was damn good acting by Matthew Fox. From the scene with he and Dogen, to sitting there contemplating what he just saw in the lighthouse, that was one of the best centric episodes he’s had since the beginning. I feel like his on-island character is going to now start moving toward a purpose and will start figuring out ‘what he has to do’.
Jack is finally becoming his own man. He came back to the Island because he thought it was what he had to do. First he was the Man of Science, then he became the Man of Faith. Neither has served him well.
Jack has to finally be himself and make his decisions without the influence of either Jacob or his father, but how can he possibly do that when they have defined his entire existence? Jack’s realization that he’s got what it takes and that he’s been led to this Island since childhood will finally fix him.
Lots of good points, although it doesn’t make me like Jack any more than I ever have.
He thought he was special and was going to save people. Turns out he doesn’t have the free will he’s been preaching all along. And as Sawyer pointed out, they didn’t need saving.
Isn’t there some Biblical reference about smashing mirrors (false idols?)?
I believe Lapidus is the person Jacob spoke about, when he said someone is coming to the island. Llana has already said Frank “might be a candidate”.
I think Frank is who Jacob talked about.
Lapidus is already on the island and has been since before Jacob was killed.
My money is on either Desmond or Aaron.
Eloise told Desmond that the Island is not finished with him yet and we are told by Faraday that Desmond is special and that the normal rules of time don’t apply to him.
And Aaron was one of the Oceanic Six and Christian told Locke that they ALL had to come back. And yes, even though we don’t know what side Christian is on yet we still have all the alusions since the beginning of the show that Aaron is going to be very important.
It is either Widmore or Desmond. Maybe they will come to the Island together because Des works for Widmore in the Sideways-verse.
franks on the Island, dude..
Jacob told MiB/Locke “They’re coming” before MiB kicked him into the fire. Last night he said to Hugo, “They’ll find another way to get here” – not sure of exact quote, but sure about the “they.” So it’s definitely not just one person. I’ve entertained all kinds of possibilities… right now I’m at the point where I think the “they” that are coming are whoever was responsible for putting Jacob and the MiB on the Island in the first place. The dial in the lighthouse had 360 different candidates on it… they are close to running out. Whatever this game or story is that’s been playing out for such a long time is close to its end, and whoever the arbiter(s) of “the rules” are will be returning to the Island for the endgame. It could be backgammon (where one side wins and one loses) or it could be tic-tac-toe (always ending in a stalemate unless someone makes a stupid mistake). I’ll probably think of something better tomorrow.
I find it very interesting that Jacob is as manipulative as Flocke. He did a great number on Dr. Douchebag.
The title “Lighthouse” like every episode has more meaning then what it states. A lighthouse is used to help guide ships. That’s exactly what Jack needed is guidance and Jacob knew that and why he didn’t care that he broke the mirrors. I also thought it was great they revisited the cave and mentioned adam and eve could possibly be them.
Why do I get the sense that Jacob and MIB are looking for replacements? And this whole thing will end up with Jack and Sawyer locked into another long struggle like Jacob and MIB. And, being separated from their timeline will give them the seemingly super knowledge and powers that Jacob and MIB possess. This means that the sideways timeline is now the true one, and with the old timeline ended, a new protector for the island is needed.
I don’t follow.. you’re saying that sideways timeline will become the primary timeline and the island will need a new protector? The island is underwater in the sideways timeline.
yep, it is essentially a reboot for the island. The island has always existed on a different plane anyway. I think that Island Prime being underwater is indicative of the passing of the old guard and the necessity of a new protector.
Um?
exactly! it makes perfect sense.
I believe Jack and Sawyer will be given a glimpse of the sideways timeline. They will have a choice
1. to stay, fill their roles and allow the sideways timeline to exist where; Jack’s son has a life and Ford and Juliet have a coffee/life together
2. To carry-on with their lives and leave the island
They will of course choose to stay and the show will fade to the sideways timeline showing everyone carrying on happily with their lives.
I think Flocke and Jacob where given the same opportunity and this might explain why Flocke mentions that he was a Man once.
I totally thought the same thing about Sawyer and Jack becoming the replacements for Jacob and MIB. And when Hurley said that those skeletons could be “us” at the caves, it made me think that the skeletons were the “replacements” in the past that didn’t work out in Jacob and MIB’s game, hence the stones.
Did anyone else get a glimpse of the Chinese looking temple in the mirrors when Hurley was spinning the wheel at the lighthouse? It was a little bit before Jack stopped him.
Yeah, I saw that. I thought it must be a reference to the Kwons in Korea.
So who is David (Jack’s son)? Blue eyes and dark hair. So mom has blue eyes… Juliet? Penny Widmore? They were being purposely vague with this one.
Claire and her new friend… Flocke!
The light house! The skeletons in the cave…
I really like the sideways 2004, things are getting good in this tangent time line!
best episode of the season so far…