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		<title>By: s.w.a.c.</title>
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		<dc:creator>s.w.a.c.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 21:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something in the podcast about showing Jacob right off the bat reminded me what the opening scene reminded me of...the first scene down in the hatch, with Desmond going about his morning routine right before the door gets blown off. Great opening scene, and a fine example of cutting to the chase, as it were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something in the podcast about showing Jacob right off the bat reminded me what the opening scene reminded me of&#8230;the first scene down in the hatch, with Desmond going about his morning routine right before the door gets blown off. Great opening scene, and a fine example of cutting to the chase, as it were.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie's Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 05:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>statue does not equal Anubis

ben&#039;s mom, yemi, etc were all not esau.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>statue does not equal Anubis</p>
<p>ben&#8217;s mom, yemi, etc were all not esau.</p>
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		<title>By: DustinCahill</title>
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		<dc:creator>DustinCahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 04:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Taweret_in_faience.jpg

I like the idea of Sobek, but I think this link shows Tawaret is still very much an option, in visual terms.</description>
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<p>I like the idea of Sobek, but I think this link shows Tawaret is still very much an option, in visual terms.</p>
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		<title>By: hector09</title>
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		<dc:creator>hector09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hola, como parte de ser afiliado te dejo esta info:

http://lostporsiempre.blogspot.com/2009/05/lost-final-de-temporada-capitulo_14.html

es el capitulo final subtitulado.

espero puedas ofrecercelo a tus lectores y fans de lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hola, como parte de ser afiliado te dejo esta info:</p>
<p><a href="http://lostporsiempre.blogspot.com/2009/05/lost-final-de-temporada-capitulo_14.html" rel="nofollow">http://lostporsiempre.blogspot.com/2009/05/lost-final-de-temporada-capitulo_14.html</a></p>
<p>es el capitulo final subtitulado.</p>
<p>espero puedas ofrecercelo a tus lectores y fans de lost.</p>
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		<title>By: triangulatedsignal</title>
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		<dc:creator>triangulatedsignal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks doc and koobie it was great having the interactive idea!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks doc and koobie it was great having the interactive idea!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody think that the fade to white in the end could have represented the last time jump? Every time jump thus far has been accompanied by the bright white flash. Maybe, this last time jump/flash, caused by Juliet’s detonation of the H-bomb, immediately sends Sawyer, Kate, Jack, Hurley, Sayid, Miles and HOPEFULLY Juliet into island present (where Ben, Sun, Lockeganger, etc. are) before they are harmed by the bomb. In the hour “Journey Through Time Special”, Damon and Carlton both mention how the flashes occur as soon as somebody completes a certain task that they might have been destined to complete, sending the whole brigade into a new time. I am convinced that Juliet was destined to set off the bomb, sending the whole brigade, including Juliet, into island present. Anybody have any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody think that the fade to white in the end could have represented the last time jump? Every time jump thus far has been accompanied by the bright white flash. Maybe, this last time jump/flash, caused by Juliet’s detonation of the H-bomb, immediately sends Sawyer, Kate, Jack, Hurley, Sayid, Miles and HOPEFULLY Juliet into island present (where Ben, Sun, Lockeganger, etc. are) before they are harmed by the bomb. In the hour “Journey Through Time Special”, Damon and Carlton both mention how the flashes occur as soon as somebody completes a certain task that they might have been destined to complete, sending the whole brigade into a new time. I am convinced that Juliet was destined to set off the bomb, sending the whole brigade, including Juliet, into island present. Anybody have any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Dusin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Rose and Bernard, I believe that their disposition was intend to reflect a little how the audience feels about running around always trying to fix things. Much like miles comments about the bomb actualing causing the incident. 

But maybe there is more to it? Could Rose and Bernard end up being our Adam and Eve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Rose and Bernard, I believe that their disposition was intend to reflect a little how the audience feels about running around always trying to fix things. Much like miles comments about the bomb actualing causing the incident. </p>
<p>But maybe there is more to it? Could Rose and Bernard end up being our Adam and Eve?</p>
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		<title>By: Raul Lorcez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raul Lorcez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow....what a finale!  I can&#039;t believe we have to wait a year 
following that last shot.  Some thoughts:


1)  As predicted, Pierre Chang lost his arm in the incident!  Now the 
question is, did Mikhail lose his eye as well?  And where the hell IS 
Mikhail this whole season, anyway?  More importantly, did everyone 
die when the blast occurred--and since Richard wasn&#039;t with them at 
the time, what did he mean when he told Sun he watched them all 
die?  Did time aright, as the Losties inexplicably hoped would 
happen?  And how will Radzinsky end up stuck in the Swan for two 
decades, pushing a button with Kelvin every 108 minutes until 
eventually losing mind, painting an invisible map of an area he 
clearly already knew well without the need for such a map, and 
ultimately blowing off his own head?


2)  In the Bible, Jacob (the patriarch of the Israelites) and his 
twin brother Esau were bitter rivals.  Jacob, the younger brother, 
often supplanted Esau, manipulating him into forsaking his 
inheritance.  Jacob was loved, but Esau was not--and the first time 
we ever heard of Jacob on Lost was in the brainwashing video Karl was 
being subjected to on Hydra Island, which said &quot;God loves you, as he 
loved Jacob.&quot;  I think Jacob&#039;s black-clad opposite is his twin 
brother, Esau, who has always resented him for being the 
favorite.  (I&#039;m just going to refer to him as Esau herein, instead of 
calling him &quot;his black-clad opposite,&quot; which takes too long.  He 
might not be Esau--but I think it likely that he is.)  Interestingly, 
the Biblical Jacob tricked Esau into giving up his birthright as the 
older brother, by giving him food when he was starving.  And what do 
we see Jacob doing in the beginning of the episode?  Offering Esau 
food, which he declines--probably because he never wants to be 
indebted to his brother again, as he still harbors resentment over 
the last time.  This raises the question--who is the good guy, Jacob 
or Esau?  In either case, their father Isaac made Esau promise not to 
kill Jacob, as he&#039;d planned to do--which would explain the need for a 
loophole in this episode.


3)  The Latin answer to the &quot;What lies in the shadow of the statue?&quot; 
question, according to Lostpedia, translates as &quot;he who will 
protect/save us,&quot; and we now know that Jacob lived in the statue&#039;s 
base, so that means Richard, Ben and the Others have seen Jacob as 
one who would protect and save them--from Esau, and from the end of 
the world, which we know is coming (Jacob even referenced that in his 
discussion with Esau at the beginning).  That&#039;s also why the Others 
felt Ben had gotten sidelined regarding the infertility 
problem--because it didn&#039;t matter.  The end of the world was near, 
and the Others knew it--but thanks to Jacob, they&#039;ve been hoping to 
be spared from disease and death.


4)  Jacob was never in the cabin, ever.  That was Esau all along, 
whom Jacob trapped in order to protect the island.  That&#039;s why Ilana 
and Bram were so concerned when they arrived to find the cabin empty, 
as they&#039;re obviously on Jacob&#039;s and Richard&#039;s side.  When Locke 
disturbed the ash a few seasons ago, he inadvertently released Esau, 
never knowing he&#039;d been duped by the island&#039;s enemy.


5)  All along, Esau has been Smokey/Cerberus--and that means 
Christian, since the pilot, has been Esau as well.  In fact, it also 
means Yemi, Charlie, Ana Lucia, Libby, Boone, Horace, Alex, Ben&#039;s 
mom, Kate&#039;s horse and other dead characters returning to life have 
all been Esau, who has been pulling the survivors&#039; strings since day 
one, searching for the one who would provide him with a loophole to 
kill Jacob.  And Richard has never been impressed with John as an 
island leader for a simple reason--he&#039;s not, and was never meant to 
be.  He&#039;s the island&#039;s unwitting betrayer.  By following Christian, 
by communing with the Smoke Monster, by turning the wheel, etc., John 
has been playing right into Esau&#039;s hands, enabling Esau to find a way 
to kill his God-loved-you-more brother by tricking both Ben and 
Locke.  Esau has been trying to find the right person for the job, 
and those who have not measured up to his needs, such as Eko, have 
been killed for disappointing him.


6)  The interesting thing about Esau and Jacob is that in the 
Biblical story, after Jacob died, his remains were taken to 
Egypt.  Maybe that&#039;s why he lives in the base of a statue of 
Anubis.  (No, I didn&#039;t know about the Jacob/Egypt connection...I just 
read it online, along with the rest of Jacob&#039;s Esau&#039;s history. Thank 
you, Wikipedia.)


7)  The reason Ben was never able to talk to Jacob was that he was 
never WITH Jacob to begin with.  He was always with Esau, so Jacob 
wasn&#039;t ignoring him--he simply wasn&#039;t connected to him at 
all.  That&#039;s also why Ben was able to summon Cerberus whenever he 
needed it--because that was all part of Esau&#039;s plan to make Ben feel 
important and, thus, his servant.  Whenever Ben has claimed to be a 
good guy, he&#039;s meant it--he has always thought he was honestly 
serving the greater good of the island, when in fact he was actually 
serving evil.  Because he was not serving Jacob, he was not protected 
by Jacob, and thus almost died of cancer.  And that&#039;s why Richard 
arranged for John to replace Ben--because he knew, all along, that 
Ben was a fraud when he claimed to be communing with Jacob.


8)  The whole &quot;black and white&quot; motif that has always been in place 
on Lost came to a head this episode.  Jacob and Esau wore 
opposite-colored tunics, and the final &quot;LOST...whooosh&quot; logo at the 
end was inverted, to be black letters on a white background instead 
of the usual white on black.  The God of the Old Testament was a 
pretty black-or-white deity--you were either in his good graces, or 
you were treated like shit, with little grey area in between.  If 
this series is, in fact, a literal (or even analogous) retelling of 
the Jacob/Esau story--and it very well could be, with Whidmore and 
Ben replaying their rivalry, complete with rules about not killing 
each other--then the black/white theme is a fitting one.


9)  The reason Juliet impossibly survived the fast and deep fall onto 
rocks, followed by skewering and shredding by about a metric ton of 
sharp instruments, steel rods and sheet metal, was that Jacob brought 
her back to life in order to detonate the bomb.  Why did he need her 
to do this, you ask?  Dunno.  Hence, season six.  But it could be a 
strong sign that Jacob is, in fact, the evil twin, especially given 
how he manipulated Esau in the Bible.  He may very well be the one 
who WANTS the world to end, and the fact that he wears white and Esau 
wears black could be a smoke-screen...excuse the pun...to throw us 
off the trail of who&#039;s good and who&#039;s evil.  All I know is that with 
Shannon, Ana Lucia, Nikki, Claire, Alex, Nadia and now Juliet all 
dead, Kate has to carry the hotness factor entirely on her own.  (Do 
the writers hate sexy women or something?  Is Lost their way of 
getting even with all the girls who rejected them in high 
school?  Sheesh.)  I think Kate is certainly up to the task, but come 
on--the rest of you still have Jack, Sawyer, Desmond, Jin, Richard, 
Jacob and &#039;70s Disco-haired Whidmore to ogle.  Even if Sayid dies, 
you&#039;ve still got a lot more eye candy than we males do.  It&#039;s all up 
to Kate now--Kate and her never-ending supply of jeans.


10)  Speaking of &quot;black and white&quot;...Rose and Bernard have never been 
cooler characters than they were tonight!  Best line of the episode: 
&quot;Sonnnnnnnnnuvabiiiiiiiiiiiiitch.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;.what a finale!  I can&#8217;t believe we have to wait a year<br />
following that last shot.  Some thoughts:</p>
<p>1)  As predicted, Pierre Chang lost his arm in the incident!  Now the<br />
question is, did Mikhail lose his eye as well?  And where the hell IS<br />
Mikhail this whole season, anyway?  More importantly, did everyone<br />
die when the blast occurred&#8211;and since Richard wasn&#8217;t with them at<br />
the time, what did he mean when he told Sun he watched them all<br />
die?  Did time aright, as the Losties inexplicably hoped would<br />
happen?  And how will Radzinsky end up stuck in the Swan for two<br />
decades, pushing a button with Kelvin every 108 minutes until<br />
eventually losing mind, painting an invisible map of an area he<br />
clearly already knew well without the need for such a map, and<br />
ultimately blowing off his own head?</p>
<p>2)  In the Bible, Jacob (the patriarch of the Israelites) and his<br />
twin brother Esau were bitter rivals.  Jacob, the younger brother,<br />
often supplanted Esau, manipulating him into forsaking his<br />
inheritance.  Jacob was loved, but Esau was not&#8211;and the first time<br />
we ever heard of Jacob on Lost was in the brainwashing video Karl was<br />
being subjected to on Hydra Island, which said &#8220;God loves you, as he<br />
loved Jacob.&#8221;  I think Jacob&#8217;s black-clad opposite is his twin<br />
brother, Esau, who has always resented him for being the<br />
favorite.  (I&#8217;m just going to refer to him as Esau herein, instead of<br />
calling him &#8220;his black-clad opposite,&#8221; which takes too long.  He<br />
might not be Esau&#8211;but I think it likely that he is.)  Interestingly,<br />
the Biblical Jacob tricked Esau into giving up his birthright as the<br />
older brother, by giving him food when he was starving.  And what do<br />
we see Jacob doing in the beginning of the episode?  Offering Esau<br />
food, which he declines&#8211;probably because he never wants to be<br />
indebted to his brother again, as he still harbors resentment over<br />
the last time.  This raises the question&#8211;who is the good guy, Jacob<br />
or Esau?  In either case, their father Isaac made Esau promise not to<br />
kill Jacob, as he&#8217;d planned to do&#8211;which would explain the need for a<br />
loophole in this episode.</p>
<p>3)  The Latin answer to the &#8220;What lies in the shadow of the statue?&#8221;<br />
question, according to Lostpedia, translates as &#8220;he who will<br />
protect/save us,&#8221; and we now know that Jacob lived in the statue&#8217;s<br />
base, so that means Richard, Ben and the Others have seen Jacob as<br />
one who would protect and save them&#8211;from Esau, and from the end of<br />
the world, which we know is coming (Jacob even referenced that in his<br />
discussion with Esau at the beginning).  That&#8217;s also why the Others<br />
felt Ben had gotten sidelined regarding the infertility<br />
problem&#8211;because it didn&#8217;t matter.  The end of the world was near,<br />
and the Others knew it&#8211;but thanks to Jacob, they&#8217;ve been hoping to<br />
be spared from disease and death.</p>
<p>4)  Jacob was never in the cabin, ever.  That was Esau all along,<br />
whom Jacob trapped in order to protect the island.  That&#8217;s why Ilana<br />
and Bram were so concerned when they arrived to find the cabin empty,<br />
as they&#8217;re obviously on Jacob&#8217;s and Richard&#8217;s side.  When Locke<br />
disturbed the ash a few seasons ago, he inadvertently released Esau,<br />
never knowing he&#8217;d been duped by the island&#8217;s enemy.</p>
<p>5)  All along, Esau has been Smokey/Cerberus&#8211;and that means<br />
Christian, since the pilot, has been Esau as well.  In fact, it also<br />
means Yemi, Charlie, Ana Lucia, Libby, Boone, Horace, Alex, Ben&#8217;s<br />
mom, Kate&#8217;s horse and other dead characters returning to life have<br />
all been Esau, who has been pulling the survivors&#8217; strings since day<br />
one, searching for the one who would provide him with a loophole to<br />
kill Jacob.  And Richard has never been impressed with John as an<br />
island leader for a simple reason&#8211;he&#8217;s not, and was never meant to<br />
be.  He&#8217;s the island&#8217;s unwitting betrayer.  By following Christian,<br />
by communing with the Smoke Monster, by turning the wheel, etc., John<br />
has been playing right into Esau&#8217;s hands, enabling Esau to find a way<br />
to kill his God-loved-you-more brother by tricking both Ben and<br />
Locke.  Esau has been trying to find the right person for the job,<br />
and those who have not measured up to his needs, such as Eko, have<br />
been killed for disappointing him.</p>
<p>6)  The interesting thing about Esau and Jacob is that in the<br />
Biblical story, after Jacob died, his remains were taken to<br />
Egypt.  Maybe that&#8217;s why he lives in the base of a statue of<br />
Anubis.  (No, I didn&#8217;t know about the Jacob/Egypt connection&#8230;I just<br />
read it online, along with the rest of Jacob&#8217;s Esau&#8217;s history. Thank<br />
you, Wikipedia.)</p>
<p>7)  The reason Ben was never able to talk to Jacob was that he was<br />
never WITH Jacob to begin with.  He was always with Esau, so Jacob<br />
wasn&#8217;t ignoring him&#8211;he simply wasn&#8217;t connected to him at<br />
all.  That&#8217;s also why Ben was able to summon Cerberus whenever he<br />
needed it&#8211;because that was all part of Esau&#8217;s plan to make Ben feel<br />
important and, thus, his servant.  Whenever Ben has claimed to be a<br />
good guy, he&#8217;s meant it&#8211;he has always thought he was honestly<br />
serving the greater good of the island, when in fact he was actually<br />
serving evil.  Because he was not serving Jacob, he was not protected<br />
by Jacob, and thus almost died of cancer.  And that&#8217;s why Richard<br />
arranged for John to replace Ben&#8211;because he knew, all along, that<br />
Ben was a fraud when he claimed to be communing with Jacob.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.docarzt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' />  The whole &#8220;black and white&#8221; motif that has always been in place<br />
on Lost came to a head this episode.  Jacob and Esau wore<br />
opposite-colored tunics, and the final &#8220;LOST&#8230;whooosh&#8221; logo at the<br />
end was inverted, to be black letters on a white background instead<br />
of the usual white on black.  The God of the Old Testament was a<br />
pretty black-or-white deity&#8211;you were either in his good graces, or<br />
you were treated like shit, with little grey area in between.  If<br />
this series is, in fact, a literal (or even analogous) retelling of<br />
the Jacob/Esau story&#8211;and it very well could be, with Whidmore and<br />
Ben replaying their rivalry, complete with rules about not killing<br />
each other&#8211;then the black/white theme is a fitting one.</p>
<p>9)  The reason Juliet impossibly survived the fast and deep fall onto<br />
rocks, followed by skewering and shredding by about a metric ton of<br />
sharp instruments, steel rods and sheet metal, was that Jacob brought<br />
her back to life in order to detonate the bomb.  Why did he need her<br />
to do this, you ask?  Dunno.  Hence, season six.  But it could be a<br />
strong sign that Jacob is, in fact, the evil twin, especially given<br />
how he manipulated Esau in the Bible.  He may very well be the one<br />
who WANTS the world to end, and the fact that he wears white and Esau<br />
wears black could be a smoke-screen&#8230;excuse the pun&#8230;to throw us<br />
off the trail of who&#8217;s good and who&#8217;s evil.  All I know is that with<br />
Shannon, Ana Lucia, Nikki, Claire, Alex, Nadia and now Juliet all<br />
dead, Kate has to carry the hotness factor entirely on her own.  (Do<br />
the writers hate sexy women or something?  Is Lost their way of<br />
getting even with all the girls who rejected them in high<br />
school?  Sheesh.)  I think Kate is certainly up to the task, but come<br />
on&#8211;the rest of you still have Jack, Sawyer, Desmond, Jin, Richard,<br />
Jacob and &#8217;70s Disco-haired Whidmore to ogle.  Even if Sayid dies,<br />
you&#8217;ve still got a lot more eye candy than we males do.  It&#8217;s all up<br />
to Kate now&#8211;Kate and her never-ending supply of jeans.</p>
<p>10)  Speaking of &#8220;black and white&#8221;&#8230;Rose and Bernard have never been<br />
cooler characters than they were tonight!  Best line of the episode:<br />
&#8220;Sonnnnnnnnnuvabiiiiiiiiiiiiitch.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: thorsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>thorsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 10:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It only ends once. Anything that happens before that, is just progress.

I say that the statue is Sobek, who first came out of the waters of chaos to create the world.</description>
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<p>I say that the statue is Sobek, who first came out of the waters of chaos to create the world.</p>
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		<title>By: DustinCahill</title>
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		<dc:creator>DustinCahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 07:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to post this here, though the first point is made elsewhere. I think the Esau connection is paper thin to the Moses nod the writers gave us through Ben. Yeah, it isn&#039;t literally Jacob and Esau, but their &quot;war&quot; is much more akin to Moses leading people out of Egypt (Egypt is a cyclical place, they are trapped ina time-loop -Darlton on the most recent &#039;Totally Lost&#039;).

1. The scene of The Incident was very familiar. Why? Because we&#039;ve heard the noises before, of the crane and those rattling chains, of people losing arms and that roaring magnetic warble, and the image of people being dragged into holes. That is the actions of the Monster ina nutshell. You see, the Incident wasn&#039;t just the drilling into pocket of electromagnetic energy, it was drilling into a cage of energy containing an ancient force (the same force that Anubis was depicted as being at odds with) that had been trapped. Then an Atomic Bomb brought it freedom. That freedom was the &#039;merging&#039;, if you will, between this ancient force and the bomb&#039;s energy, imbuing the Monster (or perhaps even sending it back in time with) a more tangible existence (it always possessed those abilities of taking forms of absorbed people and scanning people&#039;s minds). We&#039;ve seen Eko get pummeled as if he were lifted by a crane, we&#039;ve seen the pilot get lifted up onto a tree, we&#039;ve seen a chain drag Locke and Montand&#039;s into hole&#039;s (with the same sounds as in the Incident). The connections probably go on and on. The best part is, Locke described the Monster as being &quot;beautiful&quot;. Is this because Locke recognized in it a weapon? If so, is Locke an Adrian Veidt character with Rorchach sensibilities? (Locke of old saw the world in very Dichtomatic terms: Man of Science/Man of Faith, Hunter/Farmer). Could the final endgame of Locke (now imprinted into the Smoke Monster though without absorbing the body somehow like with Yemi and Christian) bring new meaning to the subtitle to Homeward Bound 2: Lost in New York (as well as Daniel Dae Kim adn Michael Emerson&#039;s visions of where they would set Lost if not on an island) as he brings the Monster off Island to bring some SmokeyJudgement Sensibilities to the world at large, in an attempt to subvert the fated end of the world ala Veidt from Watchmen?


2. Second, I am not calling the man on the beach with Jacob Esau. Why? Because its a rather silly name to give him as it has very little reality to it aside from the neatness of the biblical brothers. I understand Esau was respected as a Hunter and Jacob as a Tent Dweller (and Jacob had a son named Benjamin). And they were at &quot;war&quot;. But there isn&#039;t any real depth there, as far as I see. I prefer not to let the show to tell me that White and Black are this clear cut, but rather an issue of free will vs faith (which Jacob actually advocating free will but also sedentary history in the Time Loop).

 I will call him Moses instead. The actual conversation they had hinted at Jacob wishing to maintain a comfortable, slow measured pace to preventing the end of the world, and Moses Guy wanted to have a quick fix, a &quot;loop-hole&quot;. Well, Jacob may be allegorically closer to his biblical namesake, Moses guy doesn&#039;t have to be his brother. Moses led the chosen people out of Egypt. Egypt has a cyclical nature due to its relationship to the Nile (The Island). This is closer to Moses Guys&#039;s intention from the opening, that is freeing themselves or the world from the cyclical time loop they are trapped in. Maybe in this allegory, Jacob is just the half of Moses that is enjoying being an Egyptian prince. Also, I found Jacob not speaking with a older style of speech strange. Thus, I am going to posit that Jacob is in fact a time traveling Aaron (possibly relating to my third point). Physically, he&#039;s totally there, it lends itself to the conversations had about Aaron in the past, and while I don&#039;t believe these two brothers, I think the reference to Locke later in the episode by Ben as &quot;Moses parting the waters&quot; is a hint by the writers to Jacob&#039;s true identity.



3. I read a theory that 815 was never supposed to crash. But Aijira 316 was always suppose to land with several of out Losties, including Aaron. I believe now more than ever that to be true. I think 815 crashing (which Jacob hadn&#039;t seen yet when on the beach with Moses guy) was Moses Guy&#039;s &quot;loop-hole&quot;. With it, the Oceanic 6 (minus Sun, I&#039;m guessing) arrived earlier than they were expected (see the state of the Runway when 815 crashes versus 316 landing). That is why Jacob had Ben sit on them, rather than exterminate them. Then, when Moses Guy trapped Jacob using Christian and informed Locke (Ben) to move the Island, phase 2 was begun: rewrite the past to change the realities of the situation entirely, so course correction wouldn&#039;t need to fix it (since it already had been changed in the future, with 815 crashing - though another possibility was this was Jacob&#039;s attempt to counter Moses Guy). Either way, the O6 were needed to rewrite events (note they weren&#039;t necessarily in the past like Sawyer, Miles, and Juilet were) to favor Moses Guy or Jacob (whoever controls Christian) and permanetly alter the timeline or maintain it in a last ditch effort by Jacob. The biggest result of 815 crashing was Aaron (aka Jacob) not arriving on 316, thus never going back in time to maintain the loop. Moses Guy has ended the loop. Things have changed in the 2007 we have seen, and Jacob can die. And who are &quot;coming&quot;? as Jacob mentioned. It is the original 316ers, meaning either his last ditch plan with Jack and the bomb reset things or they represent the endgame between these two, but now without Aaron present. I&#039;m confusing myself, but there is something here, I swears!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to post this here, though the first point is made elsewhere. I think the Esau connection is paper thin to the Moses nod the writers gave us through Ben. Yeah, it isn&#8217;t literally Jacob and Esau, but their &#8220;war&#8221; is much more akin to Moses leading people out of Egypt (Egypt is a cyclical place, they are trapped ina time-loop -Darlton on the most recent &#8216;Totally Lost&#8217;).</p>
<p>1. The scene of The Incident was very familiar. Why? Because we&#8217;ve heard the noises before, of the crane and those rattling chains, of people losing arms and that roaring magnetic warble, and the image of people being dragged into holes. That is the actions of the Monster ina nutshell. You see, the Incident wasn&#8217;t just the drilling into pocket of electromagnetic energy, it was drilling into a cage of energy containing an ancient force (the same force that Anubis was depicted as being at odds with) that had been trapped. Then an Atomic Bomb brought it freedom. That freedom was the &#8216;merging&#8217;, if you will, between this ancient force and the bomb&#8217;s energy, imbuing the Monster (or perhaps even sending it back in time with) a more tangible existence (it always possessed those abilities of taking forms of absorbed people and scanning people&#8217;s minds). We&#8217;ve seen Eko get pummeled as if he were lifted by a crane, we&#8217;ve seen the pilot get lifted up onto a tree, we&#8217;ve seen a chain drag Locke and Montand&#8217;s into hole&#8217;s (with the same sounds as in the Incident). The connections probably go on and on. The best part is, Locke described the Monster as being &#8220;beautiful&#8221;. Is this because Locke recognized in it a weapon? If so, is Locke an Adrian Veidt character with Rorchach sensibilities? (Locke of old saw the world in very Dichtomatic terms: Man of Science/Man of Faith, Hunter/Farmer). Could the final endgame of Locke (now imprinted into the Smoke Monster though without absorbing the body somehow like with Yemi and Christian) bring new meaning to the subtitle to Homeward Bound 2: Lost in New York (as well as Daniel Dae Kim adn Michael Emerson&#8217;s visions of where they would set Lost if not on an island) as he brings the Monster off Island to bring some SmokeyJudgement Sensibilities to the world at large, in an attempt to subvert the fated end of the world ala Veidt from Watchmen?</p>
<p>2. Second, I am not calling the man on the beach with Jacob Esau. Why? Because its a rather silly name to give him as it has very little reality to it aside from the neatness of the biblical brothers. I understand Esau was respected as a Hunter and Jacob as a Tent Dweller (and Jacob had a son named Benjamin). And they were at &#8220;war&#8221;. But there isn&#8217;t any real depth there, as far as I see. I prefer not to let the show to tell me that White and Black are this clear cut, but rather an issue of free will vs faith (which Jacob actually advocating free will but also sedentary history in the Time Loop).</p>
<p> I will call him Moses instead. The actual conversation they had hinted at Jacob wishing to maintain a comfortable, slow measured pace to preventing the end of the world, and Moses Guy wanted to have a quick fix, a &#8220;loop-hole&#8221;. Well, Jacob may be allegorically closer to his biblical namesake, Moses guy doesn&#8217;t have to be his brother. Moses led the chosen people out of Egypt. Egypt has a cyclical nature due to its relationship to the Nile (The Island). This is closer to Moses Guys&#8217;s intention from the opening, that is freeing themselves or the world from the cyclical time loop they are trapped in. Maybe in this allegory, Jacob is just the half of Moses that is enjoying being an Egyptian prince. Also, I found Jacob not speaking with a older style of speech strange. Thus, I am going to posit that Jacob is in fact a time traveling Aaron (possibly relating to my third point). Physically, he&#8217;s totally there, it lends itself to the conversations had about Aaron in the past, and while I don&#8217;t believe these two brothers, I think the reference to Locke later in the episode by Ben as &#8220;Moses parting the waters&#8221; is a hint by the writers to Jacob&#8217;s true identity.</p>
<p>3. I read a theory that 815 was never supposed to crash. But Aijira 316 was always suppose to land with several of out Losties, including Aaron. I believe now more than ever that to be true. I think 815 crashing (which Jacob hadn&#8217;t seen yet when on the beach with Moses guy) was Moses Guy&#8217;s &#8220;loop-hole&#8221;. With it, the Oceanic 6 (minus Sun, I&#8217;m guessing) arrived earlier than they were expected (see the state of the Runway when 815 crashes versus 316 landing). That is why Jacob had Ben sit on them, rather than exterminate them. Then, when Moses Guy trapped Jacob using Christian and informed Locke (Ben) to move the Island, phase 2 was begun: rewrite the past to change the realities of the situation entirely, so course correction wouldn&#8217;t need to fix it (since it already had been changed in the future, with 815 crashing &#8211; though another possibility was this was Jacob&#8217;s attempt to counter Moses Guy). Either way, the O6 were needed to rewrite events (note they weren&#8217;t necessarily in the past like Sawyer, Miles, and Juilet were) to favor Moses Guy or Jacob (whoever controls Christian) and permanetly alter the timeline or maintain it in a last ditch effort by Jacob. The biggest result of 815 crashing was Aaron (aka Jacob) not arriving on 316, thus never going back in time to maintain the loop. Moses Guy has ended the loop. Things have changed in the 2007 we have seen, and Jacob can die. And who are &#8220;coming&#8221;? as Jacob mentioned. It is the original 316ers, meaning either his last ditch plan with Jack and the bomb reset things or they represent the endgame between these two, but now without Aaron present. I&#8217;m confusing myself, but there is something here, I swears!</p>
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