
We all know that "Lost" has done its fair share of covering issues with family; siblings not knowing their siblings, mothers who would rather love an abusive husband than their own daughter and of course, father problems.
These daddy issues outnumber the other family problems by a larger margin; to the point where they even named an episode after daddy issues, way back in season 1.
We know Locke has had many daddy issues: his father conned him into giving him a kidney, he lied to him about reforming and then promptly shoved poor John out a window. But last night's episode got me thinking: what if Anthony Cooper wasn't John's father? He's a con man, he could've conned an obviously fragile Emily Locke (who later is admitted to Santa Rosa for schizophrenia) into accepting him into her life.
Here are my reasons: Anthony Cooper isn't old enough to be a man "twice [Emily's] age". If Emily were 15 or 16 in the summer of 1957 (when the Buddy Holly song she was listening to was released), then her suitor would be between the ages of 30-32. That would make her suitor (and John's father) born in 1927. Thus, in 2004, John's father would be pushing 80. Does Anthony Cooper look even close to pushing 80? He shouldn't, as Kevin Tighe, the actor playing Anthony Cooper was born in 1944. It's not a far stretch to see Anthony Cooper pulling a long con on John Locke for a large majority of his life. Given what know in the show so far, we have no concrete proof that Anthony Cooper is John Locke's father.
So then, who is Locke's real father? My thought is that it must be that man pictured above. Why? Because of the reaction Emily's mother (and John's grandmother) gives to the man staring through the window. Richard Alpert looks like he could be in his early 30s. Is it possible that Locke's connection to the island is a familial one?
My guess is, if this were true, we won't know for quite a while.
These daddy issues outnumber the other family problems by a larger margin; to the point where they even named an episode after daddy issues, way back in season 1.
We know Locke has had many daddy issues: his father conned him into giving him a kidney, he lied to him about reforming and then promptly shoved poor John out a window. But last night's episode got me thinking: what if Anthony Cooper wasn't John's father? He's a con man, he could've conned an obviously fragile Emily Locke (who later is admitted to Santa Rosa for schizophrenia) into accepting him into her life.
Here are my reasons: Anthony Cooper isn't old enough to be a man "twice [Emily's] age". If Emily were 15 or 16 in the summer of 1957 (when the Buddy Holly song she was listening to was released), then her suitor would be between the ages of 30-32. That would make her suitor (and John's father) born in 1927. Thus, in 2004, John's father would be pushing 80. Does Anthony Cooper look even close to pushing 80? He shouldn't, as Kevin Tighe, the actor playing Anthony Cooper was born in 1944. It's not a far stretch to see Anthony Cooper pulling a long con on John Locke for a large majority of his life. Given what know in the show so far, we have no concrete proof that Anthony Cooper is John Locke's father.
So then, who is Locke's real father? My thought is that it must be that man pictured above. Why? Because of the reaction Emily's mother (and John's grandmother) gives to the man staring through the window. Richard Alpert looks like he could be in his early 30s. Is it possible that Locke's connection to the island is a familial one?
My guess is, if this were true, we won't know for quite a while.
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Two reasons this doesnt end up ringing true with me- First, its a pretty common expression to call someone quite a bit older 'twice your age'. For a 16 year old girl, i'd say a 25 year old man would qualify. That puts Cooper in his mid-70s, which i buy.
Second- and this for me clinches it, i just don't see Richard Alpert picking up a date by letting her run to his car in the rain. May sound weird, but just doesnt ring true to me. Alpert seems more like the guy that would charm the parents without even trying to the point where they send their little girl off with him gladly. Easier on everybody.
Cooper seems much more like the scumbag that waits across the street for the jailbait to run out to him so he doesnt have to deal with the folks.
Nice theory. It rings very true. But then again, maybe it's Widmore.
ATENTION PLEASE!!!!
do you remember nikky and paulo ( the most insignificant episode of the series) do you remember the spider? that makes people look like dead, what if christian have been poisoned with that on porpouse? and bring it to ths island with locke, walt and jack and the rest of the chosen ones?
that make sense!! dont you think?
christian is alive!
Alpert looks like the G-Man from Half-Life series right there.
Cubelost, sorry pal your truly lost. Moving on, there was much subtext in the half-knowing, filled with dread way Locke's grandma looked upon Alpert. She needed a cigarette to calm herself. It might be too simple to assume that Alpert would be Daddy however. It might ring more true if this issue of Locke's parentage does come into play that he is the child of......wait for it.........Jacob. Or perhaps another high-ranking member of the Others/ Natives/ DI or lord knows what else. With time travel on the table, Locke could be the child of anyone; Widmore, Ben, Christian or even Locke himself (though eww, too weird even for Lost and the very thought of it melts your brain and the very fabric of spacetime). And finally let me get this off my chest; 5-year-old Locke failed the test of ownership of the objects thusly: they are ALL his. The gifted being that Richard seeks is linked up with all future and past events as if they were one. Locke will one day possess all of those items, therefore if he was as gifted as Alpert hoped he would have selected them all. Make no mistake, John Locke is gifted and chosen by the island to serve a vital purpose. Yet like Ben in the end he will be a valued chess pess if the not the King, or Saviour.
Cubelost, sorry pal your truly lost. Darlton have publicly stated at leas a half dozen times that Christian is dead. Though dead may not mean on the island what it means in the normalverse. Moving on, there was much subtext in the half-knowing, filled with dread way Locke's grandma looked upon Alpert. She needed a cigarette to calm herself. It might be too simple to assume that Alpert would be Daddy however. It might ring more true if this issue of Locke's parentage does come into play that he is the child of......wait for it.........Jacob. Or perhaps another high-ranking member of the Others/ Natives/ DI or lord knows what else. With time travel on the table, Locke could be the child of anyone; Widmore, Ben, Christian or even Locke himself (though eww, too weird even for Lost and the very thought of it melts your brain and the very fabric of spacetime). And finally let me get this off my chest; 5-year-old Locke failed the test of ownership of the objects thusly: they are ALL his. The gifted being that Richard seeks is linked up with all future and past events as if they were one. Locke will one day possess all of those items, therefore if he was as gifted as Alpert hoped he would have selected them all. Make no mistake, John Locke is gifted and chosen by the island to serve a vital purpose. Yet like Ben in the end he will be a valued chess piece if the not the King, or Saviour.
I'm with JayDrizzle. Locke's dad is HIM / Jacob. But maybe not a daddy in the traditional sense of the word, more like DNA memory daddy. So ... Locke is his own reincarnation, the island protector, the one, the neo of the matrix, he is his own predesessor, destined to be forever in the island protecting loop !!!
If Anthony isn't Locke's biological father, it would have been a lot harder for Locke to have been a match for the kidney transplant (I'm a nurse with transplant patient experience). You need to not only be someone's same blood type but have other cell factors in common as well. It's certainly possible that Locke and Anthony were similar enough cell types but it's a pretty remote chance that Anthony would have access to information that John is a potential kidney donor for him, not to mention actually be a good enough organ donor match. Yeah, I know, it's technical and "Lost" deals in the more unusual realms of reality, but it's still an argument for Anthony actually being John's real father.
If it were true, then it would feel like a plot devise that was totally made up to "shcok" people. I think the show always intended for Cooper to be John's real father, they devoted a lot of episodes and it was an amazingly important subplot. If Alpert or anyone else turns out to be Locke's fathe rit would seem as though the writers ran out of twists and decided that, as the show always tries to make you think one way and it turns out to be the other, they could get away with that.
I think, and hope, that John's grandma was shocked because she sensed something dark and strange on Richard
I think he was involved with Emily's mom, Locke's grandfather.
Research how the current Dalai Lama was identified. Alpert has traveled back in time to find out just how significant this John Locke is. Locke is not the chosen child so desperately desired by the natives/ others but is clearly of significant value, serving a purpose until the long desired chosen one does arrive. What this person will do is unclear but he will be the embodiement of whatever Jacob once was. If the Dalai Lama story is used as source material it strongly suggests that they are in search of the reborn Jacob. As in the Lama story, a few of those objects would belong to any 5 year old boy of the time; the baseball glove, comic book. Others once belonged to Jacob. Only his reincarnation would recognize them as he is also able to peer through past, future and present events as if they existed at once.
can you donate a kidney to someone who isn't your blood?
JayDrizzle
Why do you think all the objects belonged to Locke?
Boy Locke was eying the knife and when he picked it up Alpert asked him, "are you sure the knife is yours?" to which Boy Locke nodded. Disappointed, Alpert put all the objects away and stormed off.
I don't understand how you get that all the objects are his when it seems clear that the knife wasn't.
Eriq--
Yes you can donate a kidney to someone you're not related to, but they have to be a match. Sometimes relatives don't even match, but it's more likely they would than two total strangers.
Holy crap, I called Jay and Jack around noon today with a similar theory to Jay drizzle's. I'll post it after Monday's podcast...
i really dont think richard is time traveling. i think that he does not age, or ages slowly. remember the orangatung from the lost experience...hanso's life extention project
I'm a bit sceptical of this theory for a couple reasons. First, the "twice your age" argument is a cliché that is often exaggerated. Emily's mother might have said the same thing whether Locke's real father was 30 or 25. I don't think her criticism should be taken literally. The only thing that's clear from her criticism is that Locke's father is unacceptable older than Emily.
Second, Anthony Cooper seems to think he's Locke's father. He maintains this even on the island, and even when speaking to Sawyer. He might have been lying, but he also seemed to think Locke would be a good kidney donor.
Of course it's possible that he identified Locke as a kidney donor and realized old Emily was very impressionable, and managed to con her into telling Locke that he was his father. But that's more of a stretch.
dharmalchemist looking forward to it. Perhaps we've got some other form of the sickness and our consciousnesses are becoming linked. Been exposed to major amounts of radiation or electro magnetism lately?
I think Lock moved the island back in time and visits Emily to become his own father.
Jay Drizzle, I went ahead and posted it
http://www.docarzt.com/lost-forum/lost-theories/507-remember-when-alpert-told-locke.html
If you count sticking your pecker in a light socket, then I may have some slight side effects.
I know that big electro magnetic reactor in the backyard hasn't done anything to me besides make me lose a few hairs ... Shoot, that thing couldn't hurt a fly... I take that back, it couldn't hurt a really big bird..
and X Burner, That's pretty friggin funny about Locke
I don't think Locke failed the test. I think he passed it. Richard would have said he failed regardless because a 5 year old John Locke truly wasn't ready for his calling yet.
I totally buy Anthony Cooper being in his 70s. Locke is mid 40s so his dad must be at least mid 60s anyway, meaning Tighe IS playing older than his real age. And I think the audience will feel cheated if they make him not his real dad after all the twists to their relationship. Locke's parents are the two we've known all along.
Is this really a topic of discussion? Please quit making up theories just for the sake of having one.