It didn't take much reading of the usual recapping suspects (here on DocArzt, Kristin at E! Online, Doc Jensen at EW, the fine folks at BuddyTV) to see that I wasn't going to get to do my first choice of a "little thing" for the explosive first act of "There's No Place Like Home". I was getting all set to do a bit on how Sun's awe-inspiring, whoop-inducing smackdown of her father by taking over his company had more implications than just deep, emotional satisfaction because of Mr. Paik's blink-and-you'll-miss-it connection to Widmore exposed in "D.O.C." (and, less canonically, in The Lost Experience), but they were all over it like a cheap suit.
Ah, well...much like the ineffible, unflappable Ben Linus, I always have a plan.
Location, Location, Location!
The other morsel that I've been chewing over in my brain since last night, thanks to the dear friend with whom I was watching (breathlessly, of course...if Lost doesn't cause my death by anoxia at some point, I'll count myself lucky!), is that I just can't figure out for the life of me how the next two hours of "There's No Place Like Home" is going to put the Oceanic 6 in one place long enough for their, um, "triumphant" return to the outside world.
After "Cabin Fever", everything was looking a lot easier...I was figuring Hurley would make his way back to the beach, Sawyer would deposit little Turniphead with Kate, and the O6 would make their way to the good ship Kahana and be on their way. But NOOOOOOOO!
Now, we've got Hurley still sticking with Locke and Ben outside the Orchid, about to mount their multi-flanked distraction/infiltration of that station, Jack's with Sawyer having just left Lapidus at the chopper landing site, Kate and Sayid are hot on their trail a couple hours back, and (most problematically of all, it seems) Sun and Aaron are with Desmond and Michael on the Kahana, which is looking for all the world like part of an overly-ambitious production of Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture".
How in the hell are they all going to end up in the same place at the same time, off the Island, and in a position to be rescued by Oceanic Airlines (Michelle Forbes...squee!) and the fine men and women of the US Coast Guard?
To be honest, I've been pounding on this one all day and have no freaking idea. The Kahana's going to blow sky-high, and the chopper needs a place to land. So to me, this indicates that the Zodiac raft is going to be the only vessel available to the O6. If Michael could make it to land on the little fishing boat Ben gave him, then I'm thinking that the Zodiac can as well, because it probably has a similar range. (Though if any of you out there are nautical experts and/or more willing than I am to correct me if this assumption is incorrect, do please post citations to that effect in the comments!)
So, I could maybe see Faraday clearing Michael, Desmond, Sun, and Aaron (and maybe the meatsocks) back to the Island once the wall-o'-C4 comes to light. But how the hell are Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid all getting back to the beach if Locke's right about to go into the bowels of the Orchid station to "move the Island"? If Lapidus takes Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid to the Kahana, how are the other players going to move so that it's only the O6 on the raft as the Island "moves" and the freighter blows?
Maybe the O6 leave post-"move"? I just don't know!
The Lost writers have done such a masterfully misleading job positioning the pieces on the board that I'm just not seeing the next moves...and I think I like it! Post your own (non-spoiler-containing!) theories below, and buckle your seatbelts, 'cause on May 29th it's gonna be a bumpy ride.
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Jack has a different shirt on in that beach photo..how does he have
time to change from his blue T-shirt with all the madness going on?
@BookhouseBoy
Well, the image I used as the one accompanying the piece was a screencap from the press conference sequence when they showed footage of the O6 getting off the raft on the beach of an inhabited island. I strongly suspect that footage was staged, since the idea of someone on a tiny Indonesian island just happening to have a handicam running just when the O6 showed up seems mighty fishy to me.
SonyaLynn
Last night when I was trying to come up with some content to start a discussion about last nights episode, the "location" plot came to my mind as a good subject.
And then after giving it a little thought, my brain hurt. So instead I posted a quick rundown of what we learned, what our characters learned and some short theories. They are still discussing the implications of the O6's survival story.
So thank you for tackling this. And yes, I agree that "The Lost writers have done such a masterfully misleading job positioning the pieces on the board..." and I think that there is no way anyone could come up with the right answer, except by luck.
The writers really have managed to give us a thousand possibilities, with barely no clues to the outcome.
If anyone has a room full of monkeys and typewriters, maybe we could just... :)
WLN
Agree, for some reason that button-down shirt bothered me. He's had the blue T-shirt the entire season...to have it changed suddenly in what is sure to be a lot of island craziness seemed odd. I guess we'll find out soon.
Here's my educated guess on the uniting of the O6: Jack and Sawyer are on their way to the Orchid. Kate and Sayid are captured by the Others - who will probably take them to the Orchid. Hurley is already there. Sun and Aaron are on the Freighter. Sun will leave the Freighter in the Zodiac before it eventually blows up (all people aboard will die , including Michael, Jin, and Desmond unfortunately). Lapidus shuttles Kate, Jack, Hurley and Sayid off the Island in the chopper before they "move" the Island. Locke stays of course, as the protector of the Island. Sawyer also chooses to stay (cuz he ain't got nuttin to go back to), Kate and Sawyer share an overly dramatic kiss goodbye. The chopper starts to go down. Everyone but Lapidus bails and finds Sun and Aaron in the Zodiac. Lapidus goes down with the chopper in an act of redemption. They use the Zodiac to get to a nearby island, which is what we see in the photograph. (Though they'd have to dump the Zodiac at some point, since their fake story doesn't mention them having a boat.)
No way Desmond dies...the best love story on this show is Des and Penny.
I hope Jin lives, it would give Sun a reason to find the island, and for him a reason to get off. After the Oceanic 6 leave..you need to have people on the island who STILL WANT TO GET OFF. Otherwise what's the point?
That's why I hope Juliet lives, takes charge, and kicks butt.
I hope Vincent is ok in all this madness.
Can anyone confirm this - the zodiac raft in the press conference pic is black, but the one daniel was cruising around on was grey. I'm fairly sure of this....which could validate the 'staged-ness' of that pic....possibly. Unless the Orchid spits out zodiac rafts while it moves islands ;-p
boo...
I'm pretty sure that they said they had a raft from the plane....and i'm sure that commercial planes don't come with motorized zodiac rafts. So you have to assume that after the C4 blows up....whoever(or whatever) makes them lie about everything is the same person who supplies them with a raft and supplies from a ship that sunk or whatever they said.
Good episode, can't wait for the 25th.
Bookhouse: I agree with you. I'm hoping the Desmond/Jin/Michael trio loses just one person: ol' Mikey. Otherwise, I don't understand why Jack and Co. are so hellbent on getting back. If those three buy it, who's left? Sawyer, Juliet, Locke, Ben... Rose and Bernard? Can two seasons revolve around wanting to save them?
I'll be po'd if Desmond's storyline in particular just gets cut off.
To CharliesGhost:
That raft is a different raft that is one of those survival rafts, with a roof, etc. (I can't say more due to Docs strict no spoilers rule) Just wait till the 29th
i hate the idea of sawyer staying in the island. we´ve seen in him the most substantial grownth and change...he´s even risking his life to go with the stubbered doctor, and going to save hugo´s life (the closest to a friend he´s ever had, i think).
i wonder what his future might be...what did kate promise him before leaving the island? does he get out of there any time in the future? ANY IDEAS?
Just re-watched the ep. They say that some supplies and a raft washed up on the island from a fishing vessel wrecked at sea. Also, the zodiac in the press conference pic is definitely a different zodiac than the one Daniel is using to ferry people on and off the island.......sooooo.....where does this other one, a black one, come from? Or is it just staged as a part of the cover-up?
boo...
Sawyer makes Kate promise to check in on his child.
Hanto, I seriously doubt Desmond dies, but the rest of it sounds like a good theory. But I do hope Lapidus makes it, hes cool man.
Walts in the coffin.
Maybe.
I can't imagine that Desmond would die - with Ben on record as being a crusade to hunt down Penny, I would think that a Ben vs. Desmond plotline would play a pretty big role in S5 or S6.
What if Keamy is about to detonate the C4 on the freighter right as Locke activates the Orchid, sending the island and the people on it to a different time. This could bring them back to a time on the island when they are together. Kinda out there, but you never know.
Absolutely agree SonyaLynn. It's all about the mystery of the missing pieces you suggest. Can't wait...
Im agreeing with bcs7583- the only possible way for all of them to end up together would be a miracle or a time travel
Jin said something to Sun to get her away from the explosives. It is most likely something like take the next Zodiac back to the island. The only people we see in the promo on the helicopter is Jin, Sayid, Hurley, and Kate. What is troubling to me is John and Sawyer are left back and the chopper is loosing fuel, as in loosing fuel due to a bullet hole.
There are a lot of reasons to think that it does not end well for a number of our Losties.
i don't if anyone noticed, but i am noticing that in the press conference 'rescue' pic the survivors are all wearing the clothes they had on when the plane originally crashed.
boo...
I agree with the line of thought that Jin, and some others get off the boat before it goes kaboom. I think Michael bites it at that point since he's fulfilled his destiny. I believe Desmond leaves, but I am not sure of Jin. The way Sun smacked her dad down makes me think Jin could be dead. Hopefully he gets off the boat but could not get on the chopper due to some problems, forces Sun on it, and is now stranded with the island in time.
To Charlies Ghost.
I thought Jack was wearing a coat/tie when the plane crashed.
I was kind of wondering though how that little boat has so much gas in it. Sayid went to the island and back in that little thing. They must not be that far off shore. But anyway i cannot wait to see how this plays out. I might have a heart attack before its all said and done!
What do you think will happen when Keamy's 'Dead Man Switch' (the item attached to his arm) is suddenly out of range of the freighter because the island was moved?
BOOOOOOOOM!!!
Sun is pretty calm in the Coast Guard plane for someone who just lost her husband.
If Jin dies, I bet she doesn't know. She needs to be motivated to go back as well...
@SithLord: I think Carole Littleton (Claire´s mother) is in the coffin!
After a bit of thought, the logical thing to do when you find explosives rigged on a ship, would be to put everyone in lifeboats, except for the captain and one or two others who would stay behind and try to diffuse the bomb. So probably whomever stays behind will die. Being as theres no captain, who would stay?
I think Walts got odds on Carole. Hes been through a lot, and I think, maybe in the next episode, one or more of O6 will be paying him a visit to tell him his Dad has died. He seems a little young to be committing suicide, but how long was he in that Room 23 for? If the Others have the ah, other losties, then its a good reason to get back to make sure theyre not being submitted to the same treatment.
Hows this for an alternate theory:
They diffuse the explosives.
The freightor gets run ashore on the island.
Lapidus picks up Jack, Hurley, Kate and Sayid.
They fly to the beach, the Others are there, they fight.
The O6 escapes in a life boat.
The island gets moved.
The zodiak or any kind of zodiak isn't in the landing photograph.
Concerning the photograph being staged because the likelihood of a fisherman in real life having a camera at that very moment: irrelevant.
I doubt that it is Walt. Walt lives in Brooklyn, with his grandmother. The funeral home Jack went to is in LA. Why and how would Walt end up in LA? And why wouldnt his grandmother be at his wake? And also, remember Michael and Walt are both using different names to the ones they previously had in order to mask their identity. Jack probably does not know their assumed names and identities, so there would be no basis for him.
I don't think its Carole either. It is probably Ben. Think about it for a second. He has no relatives on the mainland. His people are on the island, or may have even given him up once Locke assumes his leadership position. I can't see it being anyone else--its not one of the Oceanic 6, its not Michael or Walt, I doubt its Carole Littleton, its not Locke....it has to be someone neither kate nor jack was not close with. it might even be a character we don't know yet.
ITS JACKS DAD
MATTHEW FOX TOLD ME
Does no1 realise that Walt wont be in it anymore as it is 4/5 years later in real life, therefore he's nearly an adult now, in 5 years teenagers grow alot, and will be practically unrecognisable as walt, the young child who had powers with animals. If he is used, it will be in flash forwards and/or will be killed off because of the unexplainable "growth" that has happened to him in the past couple of weeks of Lost Time.
I think the writers neglected to realise when they 1st wrote the show that they would be casting a pointless character, unless the ilands spurted his growth, or they replace him.